Chaos vs Ryüko rematch

[Kaltias]

Let's see how it goes this time.

Chaos (SnO) (Strongest 6-B version): 3 (Schnee, Vel, Ricsi)

Ryüko Matoi (6-B version):

Inconclusive:

 

[DMUA]

oh boi

 

[Schnee_One]

Chaos flies for a while and range spams her into the high heavens before eventually realizing she can't beat her regen.

Eventually, she uses her much better meter tange to impale her, and then absorbs her.

Voting Chaos

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Schnee Ryuko in this key has pseudo flight and much longer range with ranged attacks

 

[DMUA]

6-B can't fly can she? I'm pretty sure she needs Senketsu.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ryuko is also 6x stronger so one hit will oneshot

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@DMUA She has pseudo flight, she can jump hundreds of meters in the air and hang in midair for extended periods of time without falling

 

[Schnee_One]

6-B can't fly can she? I'm pretty sure she needs Senketsu.

Nope she cannot fly, she can only jump

@Weekly Judging from the old thread she can't due to Chaos's higher Dura

Also flying into Chaos's Melee range kills her due to the fact rhat Chaos Melee range is above her and she can use her absorbtion

 

[WeeklyBattles]

>Reads her durability description

Uh...if thats true why doesnt she have High 6-B durability? Also that means Ryuko has no way to even damage her meaning this is a stomp

 

[Kaltias]

Ryuko is also 6x stronger so one hit will oneshot

1) The gap to oneshot is 7.5

2) Chaos scales ridiculously above the feat, and her dura is above her own AP by a huge margin.

3) Ryuko's flight capabilities in this form aren't even remotely close to Chaos'

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kalt Apparently her dura scales to a High 6-B so how exactly is this fair?

 

[Kaltias]

Uh...if thats true why doesnt she have High 6-B durability? Also that means Ryuko has no way to even damage her meaning this is a stomp

Because we don't know if Nymph was right or not, so we used a "possibly higher" as a lowball.

Also, Chaos' dura scales below Zeus' AP. She took some shots, but it was clear that she wouldn't have lasted long

 

[Schnee_One]

How fast is Chaos's absorbtion BTW?

 

[Kaltias]

It's instant

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Well, looks like Chaos take this for Schnee reason above.

Also Karu, come here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2447302

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Chaotic neutral fra.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

What's Ryuko's win condition here?

 

[Schnee_One]

Beating her to death really

 

[Paul_Frank]

From what I gathered she doesn't have one

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Chaos has High 6-B durability from what I read above. So I don't think that's really a viable option here.

 

[Schnee_One]

Because we don't know if Nymph was right or not, so we used a "possibly higher" as a lowball.

Also, Chaos' dura scales below Zeus' AP. She took some shots, but it was clear that she wouldn't have lasted long

What did you read above?

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I read that she was able to take hits from someone above her tier a few times without dying.

Perhaps not High 6-B, a misreading on my part. But if she can take multiple hits from someone above her tier without dying, then what is Ryuko supposed to do to hurt her when she can scarcely reach her in the first place?

It's like, Ryuko jumps, Chaos flies away. Or maybe Chaos is struck, but it does significantly less damage than what one would expect because High 6-B attacks don't one shot her.

Beating her to death doesn't seem super viable. If Chaos can just sit outside her range and casually snipe, and one shot with absorption when Ryuko gets close, then I'd say that her win condition is so implausible that it doesn't really seem all that viable.

 

[Kaltias]

We don't consider Zeus High 6-B as it is unknown if Nymph was correct or not (This could change in the future, but that's how it is right now)

It is however still pretty far into 6-B, as it is >>> Astraea Melan who is > Ikaros Melan who is >>> Base Chaos who is > Astraea who is > Ikaros who is 6-B

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Zeus isn't considered High 6-B? Oh, that's my mistake then.

I still feel Ryuko's win condition is still really reaching for one. Quite literally as Chaos will be pretty high up in the air. But I suppose the durability difference isn't as great as I thought. Thank you for the correction.

 

[Schnee_One]

Well not high enough to be out of Ryukos range

They have the same range afterall

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Chaos FRA

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah no even if Ryuko gets in range there's nothig she can do to put up a fight here, this is not a fair matchup in any way

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I guess...

I'm not really fond of it though. Like, Ryuko technically has a win condition, but it's severely hampered by Danmaku, absorption, and flight. Like, I feel if Chaos couldn't fly it would be more fair because Ryuko could use her regen as a means of getting close. But flight makes that largely irrelevant.

At worst it's incredibly decisive I suppose.

I'm not going to leave a vote though, so I suppose I'll leave it be.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What win condition does she have?