The main argument for using a 60° field of view is that 'drawings are made in conjunction with vision, so comic panels should have a field of view equal to that of the human eye.' Is this the only argument, or is there something more?
For movie and TV show panels, the horizontal FOV should be used as the default.
I've provided all I can, Ant. The only thing else I really have is one of the comic panels one of the OP provided merely further supports the idea that drawings are based on the human eye rather than a camera.:We seem to need further help here.
Yeah. This much I agree with.
He's not really arguing that. Moreover, if you use a 60° FOV for the height of extremely wide horizontal panels, you would be implying that the horizontal FOV exceeds 100°, which should result in visible distortions.
I’ve already explained in the OP why using the horizontal FOV provides more accurate results in movies and TV shows.
That's what Dalesean said.
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We seem to need further help here.
35 mm and 50 mm Lenses (Standard Lenses)
- 35 mm: This lens is considered slightly wide-angle, offering a broad field of view without distorting perspective too much. It is commonly used for indoor scenes or situations where a larger portion of the environment needs to be shown without making objects appear distorted.
- 50 mm: Considered the standard lens closest to what the human eye sees in terms of perspective. It does not produce distortion and is ideal for medium shots and general takes.
24 mm and 28 mm Lenses (Wide-Angle)
- 24 mm: Used for wide shots that capture more of the environment. Ideal for landscapes, action scenes, or small interiors where more space needs to be encompassed.
- 28 mm: This is a wide-angle lens that does not distort as much as more extreme lenses (like the 18 mm), making it suitable for shots where a broad view is needed without distortion.
Lens Focal Length Diagonal Vertical Horizontal 24mm 84.1° 53.1° 73.7° 28mm 75.4° 46.4° 65.5° 35mm 63.4° 37.8° 54.4° 50mm 46.8° 27.0° 39.6°
Value table source:
Angle of view (photography) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Yes, but their message makes me understand that they don't know the reason why more precise values are obtained.
I read the thread I get it, I just said they are more accurate nothing more lol
How are you planning to get FOV for any panel with random height/length ratio?
Comics and manga aren't counted under the current stuff
If you count the votes, and there's at least 4 people in favour of that, with at least a 4:1 acceptance rate, I think it should be fine to apply.
Didn't we already accept both of these
It was agreed that the method is correct, but I did not see any direct opinions on using 60° as a default value based on the reasons I explained. The topic related to animated movies was not discussed either. I would like to do a recap to see who agrees and also propose the possibility of creating an individual CRT for calculations that use this type of panels. This would allow us to address the topics of video games, comics, and manga separately, preventing the debate and updates from becoming endless.
Pretty sure we've already explicitly accepted the 60deg FOV, i specifcally mentioned having already used it in calcs and saying that it has gotten more accurate results as far as film and TV goes (be it live action or animated)
The original proposal was to use 70° for the horizontal field of view, then I proposed it to be 60°:
Yes I'm aware, we've already spoken on the 60 degree value and affirmed itThe original proposal was to use 70° for the horizontal field of view, then I proposed it to be 60°:
and I have not seen opinions on the matter other than yours.My final proposal for movies, series, comics, and manga is as follows:
For movies and series, I suggest a horizontal field of view of 60°, as it falls within the values commonly used in cinematography. Alternatively, we could also consider a fixed value like 65.5° or 54.4°.
Agnaa responded to this saying it's should be fine to apply with a 4 staff vote in agreeance already
This thread is meant to discuss all proposals. My suggestion is to create three separate CRTs to update the relevant calculations as the changes are approved, according to the type of panel and the corresponding medium.
You should make the other stuff a new CRT yes, thats why I'm saying we should just go ahead and apply the already accepted stuff for now at least the horizontal FOV with 60 degrees is accepted so we should just get permission to apply that and the other stuff should be proposed the in the next crt
I assume those four members approved the use of the horizontal FOV with a value of 70°, but did not express their opinion on using 60°. I imagine they will also agree, but I want to make sure everything is done correctly and would prefer to get their direct input.
This thread is not considered a CRT; its purpose is to discuss proposals. Once a consensus is reached, accepted proposals should be moved to a specific CRT to analyze which calculations are affected and need to be updated.
It would be necessary to tag the staff to confirm if they agree with the latest proposal. This way, we could start a CRT and move forward with the other proposals. So far, no one has expressed opposition to the review related to movie and series panels.What has been accepted here so far, and which staff members have accepted or rejected it?
