Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[GunshyFever]

Why is that ?

I don't really have anything much to say, other than it will buff current Denji to Low 7-C, meaning anyone who scales to a hybrid is gonna have a massive jump in power. It will be like the High 8-C 2023 scaling all over again, but this time with Low 7-C, we won't see nice flowing scaling until 2027 when season 2 comes out, is that really what you want?

 

[Bruh]

I don't really have anything much to say, other than it will buff current Denji to Low 7-C, meaning anyone who scales to a hybrid is gonna have a massive jump in power. It will be like the High 8-C 2023 scaling all over again, but this time with Low 7-C, we won't see nice flowing scaling until 2027 when season 2 comes out, is that really what you want?

As long as the calc and scaling hold up, Im fine with waiting for s2, massive powerjump in shonen thanks to anime movie (especially original one, cough cough MHA) is nothing new. Though a neat part of Low 7-C Pt1 Denji is we can now scale Beginning of Pt2 Denji to 8-B+ to Yuko slashing apart PS suits

 

[GunshyFever]

Aye, I guess. Was just trying to take work off my shoulder, considering the AP CRT was already hectic enough. Not sure if everyone else would be on board with it as well, hence my demotivation.

 

[Bruh]

Aye, I guess. Was just trying to take work off my shoulder, considering the AP CRT was already hectic enough. Not sure if everyone else would be on board with it as well, hence my demotivation.

We can always wait for everything to finished up before tacking movie stuff, dont need to push yourself

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

After my 5th time watching the movie, I suggest yall to ditch any attempt of Low 7-C Denji, cause bro ain't scaling to any of them strong attacks:
1: The building punch
That one wasn't a torpedo
2: The big boom
The sparks are spreaded over a huge area, Denji did not ate all of the booms at once

Denji only survived countless normal booms, not the large ones and it makes perfect sense, it took Reze several of them just to stop half-dead Denji from healing, Denji is a tank too.

 

[Bruh]

1: The building punch
That one wasn't a torpedo

Yes it was, if you slowed down the scene you can see Reze shaping her arm to a torpedo, rocket propelled and everything similar to the one she launched at Beam, except this one is further propelled by Reze dashing forward and punching Denji

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Yes it was, if you slowed down the scene you can see Reze shaping her arm to a torpedo, rocket propelled and everything similar to the one she launched at Beam, except this one is further propelled by Reze dashing forward and punching Denji

I see it now.

Wrap it up guys low 7-C Denji Well the thing is, that torpedo punch didn't hurt Denji, and the explosion is also smaller than the one beam tanked, so we couldn't just say that torpedo is low 7-C.

Well, that or it's just that initially Denji just didn't have enough blood to heal from a torpedo attack, eh... which makes perfect sense tbh, he became much more of a tank later on.

 

[Breadbear83]

I don't really have anything much to say, other than it will buff current Denji to Low 7-C, meaning anyone who scales to a hybrid is gonna have a massive jump in power. It will be like the High 8-C 2023 scaling all over again, but this time with Low 7-C, we won't see nice flowing scaling until 2027 when season 2 comes out, is that really what you want?

NGL it was easy to expect that In the anime rezee would be the one making upscales because her own gimmick is making explosions, so at least character will upscale from the anime to that small town level because mappa wanted bigger explosions

But in international assasin arc you Arent gonna see any higher feats as no one is blowing everything aggresively like rezee, maybe they will glaze gun devil feat but that's the last time the anime could glaze a manga feat again and then maybe never again, at most Yoru nuclear punch but that will take even longer to animate


Also are there actually plans for crts soon? I know the pochita vs Yoru is waiting the manga last arc to end but that speed, AP and movie CRT are coming soon? The movie digital release was barely released so everyone busy with it at the moment, as I can see

 

[Bruh]

I see it now.

Wrap it up guys low 7-C Denji Well the thing is, that torpedo punch didn't hurt Denji, and the explosion is also smaller than the one beam tanked, so we couldn't just say that torpedo is low 7-C.

Well, that or it's just that initially Denji just didn't have enough blood to heal from a torpedo attack, eh... which makes perfect sense tbh, he became much more of a tank later on.

Hey if the 2 attacks looks and operate the same...

I get the concern about attack size but fiction is just inconsistent like that. This was the same problem Bakugou had when MHA started get scaling since bro's explosion also range from building size to little hand sparks that supposedly had the same scaling

Yes, Denji had just regenerated from his injuries by Reze which in itself would cost what little blood Angel had given him. He then transformed in that weakened state which Aki called him out on as dangerous, and as seen with Katana man, reviving when you're low on blood can have detrimental effect on your combat

 

[Bruh]

But in international assasin arc you Arent gonna see any higher feats as no one is blowing everything aggresively like rezee, maybe they will glaze gun devil feat but that's the last time the anime could glaze a manga feat again and then maybe never again, at most Yoru nuclear punch but that will take even longer to animate

In before Darkness Santa caused a city wide earthquake

 

[VoidGoji]

Talking about Season 2 and stuff: Mappa will make the Gun Devil attack become an upgrade like what happened with Malevolent Shrine.
One thing that worries me is: how the **** do they plan on animating Darkness? One of the big parts of it is how it defines whole pages with its body and attacks; plus the way its essentially depicted as being still or too fast to be noticed would need to be adapted to the screen

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Talking about Season 2 and stuff: Mappa will make the Gun Devil attack become an upgrade like what happened with Malevolent Shrine.
One thing that worries me is: how the **** do they plan on animating Darkness? One of the big parts of it is how it defines whole pages with its body and attacks; plus the way its essentially depicted as being still or too fast to be noticed would need to be adapted to the screen

Just add a frame around the screen and do some wacky analog horror stuff for him.

Here before Gun Devil instantly nukes 10 cities in 1 second.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Yall know any CGMs who are frequent with black hole calc and other cosmic feat stuff? Man, 2 of my calcs have been waiting for over 6 months already.

 

[Arkenis]

Yall know any CGMs who are frequent with black hole calc and other cosmic feat stuff? Man, 2 of my calcs have been waiting for over 6 months already.

I've waited nearly three years, you'll be fine. I think Agnaa can help if he's available though.

 

[Bruh]

Yall know any CGMs who are frequent with black hole calc and other cosmic feat stuff? Man, 2 of my calcs have been waiting for over 6 months already.

What verse are the calcs for. If its black hole stuff might want to ask around the Megaman verse for help

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

What verse are the calcs for. If its black hole stuff might want to ask around the Megaman verse for help

The battle cats, but calcs are my least of worries, when a big crt got 0 souls participating in it now, and I'm 1 vote away. FinePoint is on vacation too, it's so over.


Anyways, here are some insights on Typhoon's LS
Typhoon's wind LS: Can easily lift cars from afar, lifts big chunk of rocks near it and can lift an entire building easily in the eye, but this only applies for its latest form in the movie, not the initial form. If the centrifugal force calc passes, we would have Class T typhoon, otherwise Class M.
Aki could hold on Angel from being dragged away from afar, so the initial wind strength should be at about Class 5 or so, and this applies for its initial form, none of the above could be applied for it.

If only I have a way to calc the centrifugal force of initial Typhoon, we would've had a better look at its LS initially...

 

[Bruh]

If the centrifugal force calc passes, we would have Class T typhoon, otherwise Class M.

Shame no one aside from maybe the Primals scale to this

 

[Bruh]

If im not wrong Typhoon's full size now has a higher mass than the Class M Snake Devil feats right? Does this mean that if the calc gets accepted, all the characters that scale to or above the Class M Snake Devil feat will scale to Typhoon's mass instead ?

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

So guys, where are we rating adult form Typhoon now? Just far higher or what?

For all I know, according to Fujimoto's words its normal AP and Dura would surpass Denji's chainsaw at the very least.

 

[Bruh]

according to Fujimoto's words its normal AP and Dura would surpass Denji's chainsaw at the very least.

Was this in an interview or sth ?

 

[Arkenis]

pretty sure he couldn't cut through it

 

[Bruh]

By Adult Typhoon are yall referencing the one from Asa's backstory or am I missing sth ?

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Was this in an interview or sth ?

in his QnA, he basically confirmed that Typhoon was only a baby and that's why EVEN Denji could defeat it.

 

[Bruh]

in his QnA, he basically confirmed that Typhoon was only a baby and that's why EVEN Denji could defeat it.

I see, do we even make keys for characters we never get to see in action ? I remember All for One having this problem with his Prime key which was eventually removed

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I see, do we even make keys for characters we never get to see in action ? I remember All for One having this problem with his Prime key which was eventually removed

I don't think Typhoon will have this problem, as it is innate to himself rather than depending on external factors. Plus we've already seen old man Typhoon already, in Asa's flashback.

 

[GunshyFever]

So guys, where are we rating adult form Typhoon now? Just far higher or what?

For all I know, according to Fujimoto's words its normal AP and Dura would surpass Denji's chainsaw at the very least.

in his QnA, he basically confirmed that Typhoon was only a baby and that's why EVEN Denji could defeat it.

That doesn't mean his physical stats would be above Denji's chainsaw's. It just means his raw power and abilities exceed something Denji could manage in Part 1. An example being that Reze Arc Denji could still rip through the Typhoon devil, but would eventually be defeated by the superior characteristics of the it.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

That doesn't mean his physical stats would be above Denji's chainsaw's. It just means his raw power and abilities exceed something Denji could manage in Part 1. An example being that Reze Arc Denji could still rip through the Typhoon devil, but would eventually be defeated by the superior characteristics of the it.

Yeah, just list adult Typhoon and such as far higher tbh considering how big it could get in baby form in just 1 single fight.

 

[GunshyFever]

I see it now.

Wrap it up guys low 7-C Denji Well the thing is, that torpedo punch didn't hurt Denji, and the explosion is also smaller than the one beam tanked, so we couldn't just say that torpedo is low 7-C.

Well, that or it's just that initially Denji just didn't have enough blood to heal from a torpedo attack, eh... which makes perfect sense tbh, he became much more of a tank later on.

Thing is, that's the difference between AP scaling and destruction scaling. Let's assume the torpedo is accepted as Low 7-C, this just means the AP of that attack would also match that value based on whom it can harm. For example, Beam took that torpedo to the skull band coughed up blood, making Beam's durability Low 7-C. Denji was able to tank the AP of Reze's explosion in the building. However, separate from Beam his transformation can be worn down much faster while Reze had to pressure Beam significantly more than Denji.

Now here comes the tricky part about powerscaling. In the end these 3 characters still end up being Low 7-C. Why?
If Beam's durability is > Low 7-C, Reze's explosions though to a lesser extent and with numerous blasts, can still wear down and harm Beam. I don't know if y'all have a calc for 8-A+, but if you do we could place her explosions there, otherwise we are downscaling from Low 7-C. Denji's durability also reflects this.

Reze's durability > Beam's durability > Denji's durability > torpedo explosion > numerous explosions

 

[MusicRelaxing]

Conclusion: Beam lowk is the goat and upscales literally everyone

 

[Bruh]

Thing is, that's the difference between AP scaling and destruction scaling. Let's assume the torpedo is accepted as Low 7-C, this just means the AP of that attack would also match that value based on whom it can harm. For example, Beam took that torpedo to the skull band coughed up blood, making Beam's durability Low 7-C. Denji was able to tank the AP of Reze's explosion in the building. However, separate from Beam his transformation can be worn down much faster while Reze had to pressure Beam significantly more than Denji.

Now here comes the tricky part about powerscaling. In the end these 3 characters still end up being Low 7-C. Why?
If Beam's durability is > Low 7-C, Reze's explosions though to a lesser extent and with numerous blasts, can still wear down and harm Beam. I don't know if y'all have a calc for 8-A+, but if you do we could place her explosions there, otherwise we are downscaling from Low 7-C. Denji's durability also reflects this.

Reze's durability > Beam's durability > Denji's durability > torpedo explosion > numerous explosions

Im fine with downscaling as long as it's still in the realm of comparability

 

[Bruh]

Still looking through the movie got me thinking how crazy Denji's stamina is. Im pretty sure in that building sequence alone, bro got hit more than some protag in their entire series, yet still got up to 2 tap Typhoon afterward.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Still looking through the movie got me thinking how crazy Denji's stamina is. Im pretty sure in that building sequence alone, bro got hit more than some protag in their entire series, yet still got up to 2 tap Typhoon afterward.

Draining a whole lady's blood really helped him with healing a lot.

 

[Bruh]

Draining a whole lady's blood really helped him with healing a lot.

I think he only healed once when he lost his arm at the end of that sequence, the rest he just raw dogged it. Still put into perspective the difference being low on blood make to a Hybrids transformation

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I think he only healed once when he lost his arm at the end of that sequence, the rest he just raw dogged it. Still put onto perspective the difference being low on blood make to a Hybrids transformation

So basically we're just seeing full power Denji.
Man, thinking about it the Reze upscale is insane, I can't wait what upscale we will get to witness for Quanxi and Darkness next. I could already estimate relativistic Darkness just from the feat of him neg diff Quanxi alone.

Ah yes, I have a feeling that I could upscale Typhoon, Denji and Beam be looking extra small inside it, so I wonder?

 

[VoidGoji]

I think that the only anti-feat for relativistic Darkness would be Makima reacting to their first clash

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I think that the only anti-feat for relativistic Darkness would be Makima reacting to their first clash

all I see is Makima upscale and Pochita further upscale

 

[Bruh]

Patience my friends, we likely wont be getting any of that for at least 3 years. Beside, Gunshy is already busy as is, the more time the better

 

[PhantomØ4]

That took quite an effort

Reze Torpedo explosion

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You forgot to divide the final result by two as the airburst formula uses nuclear detonations as reference me thinks.

The armspan measurement for Denji is wrong as you only measured from his hand to his chest when it's from one hand to another going through the chest. Actually changes the result quite a lot.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

You forgot to divide the final result by two as the airburst formula uses nuclear detonations as reference me thinks.

The armspan measurement for Denji is wrong as you only measured from his hand to his chest when it's from one hand to another going through the chest. Actually changes the result quite a lot.

Did I forgot to divide armspan by 2? Dangit.

Oh... Dividing it by 2 doesn't change anything... Huh

 

[Epiccheev]

Dangit.