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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

CowHeadGod said:
Yeah, I've seen there's a recent CRT about her posted. However, I'm gonna be completely honest, I haven't actually properly sat down and read through her current profile yet lol...

But I will say though, having a seperate P/A tabber for her weapons like we do with Devil Contracts on Aki's profile is something that will probably greatly help for a start.
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I think this is good enough (content wise). If anyone is interested in making it look better (or fix anything), feel free to do so.

Also about me giving her low-Mid regen via weap creation for Gun and Tank Gauntlet, and putting Gun and Tank gauntlet as standard equipment for Yoru Post-Pochita fight and optional equipment listed as "Weapon Devils" pre-Pochita fight, what you think about that?

Scans for Large Building Level+ was missing
 
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GunshyFever said:
Part 2 is ending in like April or July. So maybe on the 1st of July.
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  • Chainsaw Man Vol 1 - 9 (Ch. 1 - 79) Page Count:
    • 192+192+192+192+200+192+200+192+192 = 1744
  • Chainsaw Man Vol 12 - 19 (Ch. 98 - 175) Page Count:
    • 192+184+184+200+184+194+184+184 = 1506
  • Chainsaw Man Ch. 176 - 190 Page Count:
    • 18+16+17+17+18+17+16+15+15+15+17+15+14+16+15 = 241
  • Total Pt. 2 Page Count:
    • 1506 + 241 = 1747
Part 2's just surpassed the Beginning to end of Gun Devil Arc by page count.
 
DrGreyman said:
eh, the call to arms is a pretty big leap tho
there is a clear jump in power from before and after
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About that, I created a new key but I've got people saying that she could already do allat on her 2nd Key already, it's just that she had no reason to until she fought Pochita. And since I decided that her new arms should only be counted as a standard equipment after her fight with Pochita plus a low-mid regen via weaponization for her 2nd key and that's it, which I don't think need a new key imo.

For notable attacks/techniques, I think we should just create a new tab called "With Gun Gauntlet" add Gun Goddess to that, that's such a big leap and would be one of her iconic attack by now tbh. Also I think we should create a tabber for standard weapon too, adding the Gun Gauntlet alone to categorize it rather than just putting a sneaky explanation to explain it out (as I said, she got the Gauntlets as her standard equipment only after she had her arms regenerated).

Name change? War Fiend sounds kinda mid tbh (can't even search "Yoru" lmao, people are never finding her profile).

Also, what about her losing an arm? Isn't that her weakness at one point? What do we say about this guys?
 
Eh, I'm gonna summarize everything about her profile at the moment:

1: Scans for Large Building+ on her 2nd key was missing (imgur bugged), need replacing
2: She gained new abilities in her 2nd key:
-Summon (for Gun Goddess)
-Limited Bio manip (for being able to create a finger bullet by sacrificing 80000 index fingers), I'm not sure if this one is right or nah, is bio manip the right one? Edit: thinking again, this might just be weapon creation. Eh, we could just remove it if you guys want.
-Limited Homing attack via Gun Goddess (for being able to ignore the earth's Curvature)
-Enhanced weapon creation now also gain limited telekinesis (which comes with the added FTL+ weaponification speed for her, actually, why won't we make this attack speed too? Well, what do you guys think about this? Too conditional of an attack but it works, we even have calc for it)
-Regen via weapon creation (low-Mid) for being able to replace her missing arms by sacrificing Gun and Tank

Stats:
AP: added Town+ level for hurting Pochita, likely higher for severely damaging Pochita + blowing him away even when he deflected the attack. Mountain level (ignoring the city level calc) via Gun Goddess
Striking Strength: Town+, likely Higher, Mountain
Speed: Added Sub-Rel (0.048c, the highest end)
Range: added Tens of meters for Gun Gauntlet, likely Hundreds of meters for the fact that her gauntlet is literally a gun without a scope (could just ignore Tens of meters tbh), which qualifies for this. Planetary for Gun Goddess (29000km)

Standard Equipment: Added Gun and Tank Gauntlet for only Post Pochita fight (with an explanation for it).
Optional equipment: Soap Sword, Sushi Sword, Weapon Devils

Edit: The grammar problem for the profile was fixed... I think. Experts please look through it again, it's looking mighty fine rn.

Edit2: For her Enhanced weapon creation, I noticed a fatal error. I remember it now, the bath scene was supposed to happen after the Prison arc, at that one apartment (they mentioning about someone been using the bath for too long or something). So when she first gained the ability to create weapons without touching, it didn't come with the "without the need to name the weapon" yet (soap sword). Is this a call for a separate key?
 
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Seconding (thirding) on the profile being renamed to Yoru (Asa Mitaka) rather than War Fiend (Asa Mitaka), as literally no one calls her that.

Yoru's called "War" or "War Devil," but never "War Fiend."
 
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Acertainbcplayer said:
The problem is that this Bullet completely ignores the earth's Curvature itself, regular snipers don't have to take into account the Curvature of the earth since they can't even fly far enough to begin with.
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The gun devil has shown the same targeting/homing ability as the gun goddess to a lesser extent. The gap in quality of the ability is only big because of yoru's control, given that fact it's not a stretch to say that they are basically the same ability.
 
Anyways, do we want to add the FTL attack speed thing for Yoru with the mount elbrus feat for AP? I think it is solid enough to be a super conditional attack that Yoru could use anytime, just the AP depends on what thing she want to turn into a weapon.

So a varies (depends on the size of the object), (insert mount elbrus feat) and a solid ftl+ attack speed for it. Also a new at least massively hypersonic+ reaction speed because she was able to use the ability (or react in time) before Pochita cuts her + even shot him in that timeframe, but no likely higher because she can't follow Pochita's speed completely afterwards.

We could even calc the bullet travel speed based on that too, has anyone done it yet?
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Anyways, do we want to add the FTL attack speed thing for Yoru with the mount elbrus feat for AP? I think it is solid enough to be a super conditional attack that Yoru could use anytime, just the AP depends on what thing she want to turn into a weapon.
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It's a really, really conditional attack is the thing, and only Gun and Tank would be applicable for the [summon through a person] attack. Other objects would be speculative. Just listing it as summoning speed is good enough.
Acertainbcplayer said:
So a varies (depends on the size of the object), (insert mount elbrus feat) and a solid ftl+ attack speed for it. Also a new at least massively hypersonic+ reaction speed because she was able to use the ability (or react in time) before Pochita cuts her + even shot him in that timeframe, but no likely higher because she can't follow Pochita's speed completely afterwards.
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Yeah, Quanxi says no. Yoru thinking about summoning Tank and Gun started just after Pochita chopped her arm off and before he went for the kill, and her facial expression never changes in response to Pochita's movements. In addition, as you said she can't follow his movements right after when he runs away, and it was Tank and Gun being summoned through Pochita that put a hole in him, Yoru did not attack him in the tiny window of time. Note how Yoru doesn't say "Bang!"
Acertainbcplayer said:
We could even calc the bullet travel speed based on that too, has anyone done it yet?
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Calc Stacking, abso-f*cking-lutely not.
 
ElajRuengies said:
It's a really, really conditional attack is the thing, and only Gun and Tank would be applicable for the [summon through a person] attack. Other objects would be speculative. Just listing it as summoning speed is good enough.
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It's conditional... Until you think about it a bit:
First, the soap sword, it clearly flew to Yoru, meaning that anything could be used as a weapon if used correctly (thor hammer moment). AP will varies anyways.
ElajRuengies said:
Yeah, Quanxi says no. Yoru thinking about summoning Tank and Gun started just after Pochita chopped her arm off and before he went for the kill, and her facial expression never changes in response to Pochita's movements. In addition, as you said she can't follow his movements right after when he runs away, and it was Tank and Gun being summoned through Pochita that put a hole in him, Yoru did not attack him in the tiny window of time. Note how Yoru doesn't say "Bang!"
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I think nuh uh tbh, because the buildings in that scene wasn't damaged at all, meaning it's not Tank that destroyed Pochita's arm. And Yoru clearly shot anyways, I don't think we should interpret too far (but yeah, it's quite weird how Yoru shooting to Pochita's stomach blown off Pochita's arms, eh...). BUT, Yoru turning room 606 into a sword didn't crush Yoshida.
ElajRuengies said:
Calc Stacking, abso-f*cking-lutely not.
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I use base quanxi speed like how the yoru calc used tho, turns out to be quite underwhelming, and even if we use Gun Devil's calc, it's still within massively hypersonic+, not a big "damn that's huge".
 
eh, about the room 606 one, I think again, ain't it contradicting what the Gun and Tank devil did?
...Idk if I should think about this one anymore...
 
Couldn't you just use the light novel statement? Also I just realized shouldn't Gun goddess receive the Gun devil "multipliers" since yoru stated that she couldn't use her gun devil powers when bang didn't work inside of aging Devil's world.
 
Famikiga said:
Couldn't you just use the light novel statement? Also I just realized shouldn't Gun goddess receive the Gun devil "multipliers" since yoru stated that she couldn't use her gun devil powers when bang didn't work inside of aging Devil's world.
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Yeah, giving her the Gun Devil's attack speed would be better, since the weapon is literally made from 28% of the Gun Devil, which is more than the 20% one, plus emotion too.

Eh, what y'all think about this one? I think we should do that.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
I mean the yoru weaponification calc did used it, so it wouldn't be calc stacking, but statement + calc.
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So if it's a statement it's not calc stacking but at which point. The gun was stated to travel the world in 5 minutes, it doesn't a genius to come to the conclusion of his speed being mhs based off that.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Yeah, giving her the Gun Devil's attack speed would be better, since the weapon is literally made from 28% of the Gun Devil, which is more than the 20% one, plus emotion too.

Eh, what y'all think about this one? I think we should do that.
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I'm iffy if it's 28% that fired the bullet. The devil she made into gauntlet
came from Russia and was 28% percent. The us was 20% percent but makima killed that one and it took over megumi's body. So it either be the 10% of china gun devil or the remain less then 10% other countries have.
 
Anyways, taken into account that Yoru's normal bang could hit Pochita and made him guard instead of dodge means that it will be at least Massively Hypersonic+ upscaling from Pochita who upscaled from Gun Devil
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Anyways, taken into account that Yoru's normal bang could hit Pochita and made him guard instead of dodge means that it will be at least Massively Hypersonic+ upscaling from Pochita who upscaled from Gun Devil
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That's Yoru's attack speed w/ Gun Gauntlet and it scales to at least Makima's Bang Speed (Mach 4,600). It doesn't scale to Yoru's combat speed.
 
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