Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[GunshyFever]

I fully agree with Zab. If you're looking for action packed fights spanning multiple chapters, Chainsaw Man isn't the manga you're looking for. Fujimoto will always prioritize storytelling over lengthy, drawn out battles. And that's pretty evident, I'm not sure what the latter was expecting.

I'm not going to be hypocritical, because I do enjoy fights spanning multiple chapters and cool sequences more. But, I don't mind the fights being more plot focused.

You will get what your looking for in the upcoming movie and likely the seasons after that. If your not satisfied with reading weekly then just don't do it.

Edit: It's also very funny considering this was the same reaction, this specific group of people had just a few chapters before Pochita Awakened, thinking the manga was headed to a "sub-plot".

 

[ElajRuengies]

There's a negative zero-percent chance that the confrontation with Death is gonna be a punch-out, and that has my curiosity grabbed.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

The fact that this became the standard sucks but it is what it is.

I actually like knowing what a character scales to without having to spend unnecessary time going through the slog that is a verse page and clicking through multiple profiles

 

[Ped2018]

You guys low-key coping

 

[Epiccheev]

I hate hoping

 

[Zabazab]

I actually like knowing what a character scales to without having to spend unnecessary time going through the slog that is a verse page and clicking through multiple profiles

You have misunderstood. I'm saying I prefer

Attack Potency: Whatever level[Note1] (Slop)

over

Attack Potency: Whatever level (Slop[Note1])

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Is that even a hard rule? The way it's listed it just sounds like an example.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

You have misunderstood. I'm saying I prefer

over

Ah, yeah, it just came off a bit odd. I can see how that's preferred.

 

[That_moron2]

Is that even a hard rule? The way it's listed it just sounds like an example.

That's what I've been told

 

[GunshyFever]

By the looks of it, it seems like an example

 

[CowHeadGod]

Also, Old Age Devil WIP, but I'd prefer if the speed and AP upgrades were made before its page. New profiles don't need a CRT if below Tier 1 remember.

Renders if you need them:

On a completely unrelated note: actually fck rendering on black backgrounds. Actually some herculean crap you would see Fujimoto put Denji through.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Renders if you need them:

On a completely unrelated note: actually fck rendering on black backgrounds. Actually some herculean crap you would see Fujimoto put Denji through.

Renders so clean a bald guy with white eyebrows could've made them.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Renders if you need them:

On a completely unrelated note: actually fck rendering on black backgrounds. Actually some herculean crap you would see Fujimoto put Denji through.

First one clearly better btw, it just spells aura (and good art too)

 

[Zabazab]

Renders

Very nice! Added them both to the sandbox.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Very nice! Added them both to the sandbox.

I still find that mountain level dura Old Age seems off... Because of the reason below:

1: Pochita can hurt Old Age easily
2: Pochita's same chainsaw could hardly tank Yoru's normal bang
3: Pochita and all of his chainsaws got nuked instantly, leaving only his upper half left, badly damaged with Gun Goddess

The thing about Old Age thinking that Yoru was stupid to think that thing could kill it is because it could just heal back anyways + the unknown timestop hax that condition we haven't truly understand yet, maybe that thing just activates whenever Old Age's is in danger of a strong attack (therefore it could not be killed that way). Things like that could happen instead.

So I think Old Age's Dura should only be upscaled from something else rather can directly scaling to Yoru's bullet.

 

[Zabazab]

The AP triangle of Yoru - Old Age - Pochita is none of my business. Stats ain't my job.

 

[That_moron2]

Yeah, nobody scales to Yoru's Call to Arms speed.

Aw man

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Now that I think about it, we know through this arc that Pochita's stomach is kind of a pocket dimension, and we also know the existence of Aging's world, so theory time:
1: Aging's world and Pochita's pocket dimension are 2 of the same kind of power
2: We knows Pochita actually doesn't completely erases things completely but rather "erasing them from existence itself"

So basically Pochita's power is actually to separate the devils from the world, thus making it so that the concepts that the Devils embody don't exist in said world anymore, thus making them not being able to influence the world. So does this mean that the devils are tangible conceptual beings themselves?

 

[ElajRuengies]

I still find that mountain level dura Old Age seems off... Because of the reason below:

1: Pochita can hurt Old Age easily
2: Pochita's same chainsaw could hardly tank Yoru's normal bang
3: Pochita and all of his chainsaws got nuked instantly, leaving only his upper half left, badly damaged with Gun Goddess

The AP triangle of Yoru - Old Age - Pochita is none of my business. Stats ain't my job.

Obviously Pochita's chainsaws just have City level durability but Mountain level piercing damage. I say that jokingly, as even just scaling the saws higher wouldn't work since Pochita was also able to tear Aging in half with his bare hands, no saws required.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Obviously Pochita's chainsaws just have City level durability but Mountain level piercing damage. I say that jokingly, as even just scaling the saws higher wouldn't work since Pochita was also able to tear Aging in half with his bare hands, no saws required.

Again about Pochita tearing Aging in half with his bare hands, I don't remember (I checked twice again) that it happened. If you're referring to chapter 187 when Pochita seems to be tearing Aging in that double-page with his sheer physical power alone, then I must add that Pochita already was dismembering Aging 1 page ago. Here's my interpretation of what I saw in the pic:


Eh, just my interpretation, makes more senses tbh (well, unless you're referring to a different panel then eh)

Do you think this Asa profile looks good enough already? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...venotify=created#Post-Chainsaw_Man_Church_Arc

 

[ElajRuengies]

Again about Pochita tearing Aging in half with his bare hands, I don't remember (I checked twice again) that it happened. If you're referring to chapter 187 when Pochita seems to be tearing Aging in that double-page with his sheer physical power alone, then I must add that Pochita already was dismembering Aging 1 page ago. Here's my interpretation of what I saw in the pic:

This made me realize Aging's neck got a little longer every time it regenerated from Pochita decapitating it. Thing's a giraffe in 190.

Also I've seen from multiple sources that Aging refers to itself with ぼく (boku) as its personal pronoun; which can indicate a tomboy or gender non-conforming person in fiction.

Boku
僕 "I, a non-threatening man." An informal, somewhat masculine pronoun more assertive than watashi but less so than ore, it's typically used by men who want to sound casual without coming across as rude or aggressive—for instance, it would be the normal pronoun for a man to use in an informal TV interview. Younger girls and women also use it among each other, however, never when a boy or man is present. It's also the default pronoun for young boys, though an especially childish one may use boku-chin instead.

In anime, it can also be used by tomboyish girls, regardless of social context; these characters are known as Bokukko. (Note, however, that the bokukko phenomenon is a prominent example of how anime dialogue differs from actual spoken Japanese; in the real world, it would be a bit weird for a female native speaker to refer to herself as boku outside of close company). Female singers and poets may also use boku purely for metrical purposes. Interestingly, this pronoun tends to be used by androgynous characters with either Ambiguous Gender or/and Viewer Gender Confusion, such as Yubel, Crona, or Ashuramaru. If used by villains, expect them to be a Psychopathic Manchild and/or a Sissy Villain.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

This made me realize Aging's neck got a little longer every time it regenerated from Pochita decapitating it. Thing's a giraffe in 190.

I thought it's neck was always built like that

Also I've seen from multiple sources that Aging refers to itself with ぼく (boku) as its personal pronoun; which can indicate a tomboy or gender non-conforming person in fiction.

So... no mommy then....

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Idk if anyone has done it or not, but I created the new profile for Yoru (haven't included soap knife and that one sword she created to fight Pochita yet). Plus the slicing Octopus and blocking Yoshida scans were lost somehow, need fixing.

Acertainbcplayer/sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

I think that Asa's third key should be called "After sacrificing Tank and Gun Devil" instead of "Post-Old Age Devil" as this occurred before the Old-Age Devil fight really even started and more accurately describes how she powered up.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Possibly something you're feeling due to the weekly experience, I think. The anticlimax is good because it serves both the plot and themes of Chainsaw Man while remaining true to the characters, rather than contradicting these parts of the story. That's what I want from a manga: interesting writing. Your boredom is a subjective experience just like our enjoyment is, and it may just mean Chainsaw Man isn't for you.

the anticlimax wasn’t well-written, makima died through anticlimax and it was still satisfying from a narrative perspective. here they beat aging devil through random nonsense just happening

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I think that Asa's third key should be called "After sacrificing Tank and Gun Devil" instead of "Post-Old Age Devil" as this occurred before the Old-Age Devil fight really even started and more accurately describes how she powered up.

Eh, you're right, fixing it later.

Also about the new key (just to clarify), I'm adding it solely for the Bodily Weaponry ability (required because the gauntlets are part of Yoru/Asa's body now). Nothing else. Eh, what y'all opinion on this btw?

If you're good at grammar, you could check if there is any grammatical error or anywhere you feels like it needed further contexts and justification. It would help a lot. I fixed all of them already, but idk if it's good enough or nah.

The profile is basically done at this point, only need someone who knows what they're doing to check it again.

 

[That_moron2]

The profile is basically done at this point, only need someone who knows what they're doing to check it again.

Deleted that whole both arms regenerated

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Deleted that whole both arms regenerated

Eh, is it not needed? Because here is the thing, Yoru only lost both arms because of Pochita, and permanently (basically permanently) gained Gun and Tank gauntlet as her new arms with built in weapon from that point, but before that she only lost 1 arm and even if she does try to regenerate and gain that 1 arm back, the other arm would only qualify as an optional equipment. It would make things more complicated.

I think the Yoru before Pochita cut both arms vs the Yoru after she got both arms regenerated requires a different key, but if not necessarily so then I'll delete it. So delete it or not?

 

[That_moron2]

Eh, is it not needed? Because here is the thing, Yoru only lost both arms because of Pochita, and permanently (basically permanently) gained Gun and Tank gauntlet has her new arms with built in weapon from that point, but before that she only lost 1 arm and even if she does try to regenerate and gain that 1 arm back, the other arm would only qualify as an optional equipment. It would make things more complicated.

I think the Yoru before Pochita cut both arms vs the Yoru after she got both arms regenerated requires a different key, but if not necessarily so then I'll delete it. So delete it or not?

No change in A.P as it literally says so no new key

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

No change in A.P as it literally says so no new key

So do I move bodily weaponry to Post CSM Church? Or do you mean to remove the key in the stats section only and not abilities?

 

[That_moron2]

So do I move bodily weaponry to Post CSM Church? Or do you mean to remove the key in the stats section only and not abilities?

The entire bodily weaponry should be removed

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

The entire bodily weaponry should be removed

Aye. Wait, Yoru can replace her arm with literally new arms with built in power, what should this ability be listed as?

 

[That_moron2]

Aye. Wait, Yoru can replace her arm with literally new arms with built in power, what should this ability be listed as?

Don't know. Maybe cyborgization?

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Don't know. Maybe cyborgization?

Not really, since her arms are technically bio but the gauntlet is kinda built in from what I've seen, but technically not equipment since that's literally her arms.

Uh, I'll look into this for a sec (I think it should be bodily weaponry though).

 

[That_moron2]

I think it should be bodily weaponry though

Robot arms are not bodily weaponry, that's things like sharp teeth, claws, etc

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Robot arms are not bodily weaponry, that's things like sharp teeth, claws, etc

I think again, maybe I should list Gun and Tank gauntlet as standard equipment (or optional? But after regeneration it became standard equipment, how should I do this?), and give her regeneration (or if it's other ability, then that) via weapon creation?

Edit: Gave her Low-Mid regen via weapon creation, along with updating Gun and Tank Gauntlet as her standard equipment after she had sacrificed Gun and Tank to regen both her arms, otherwise will be Weapon Devils under optional equipment instead

 

[CowHeadGod]

While everyone's on the topic about Asa/Yoru. Can we please change her page name from "War Fiend (Asa Mitaka)" to just "Asa Mitaka" or something.

Like imma be fr the War Fiend is an ASS name I have not seen a single person call Asa that or it even being mentioned anywhere. Not in verse or in fandom. It's not even a canon alias We don't do this BS on any other page here. Not even the Violence Fiend, we just use his true name. Just makes searching for her a real pain in the ass

 

[Epiccheev]

Can't wait for Yoru to break Yoshida's neck, rip off her trigger finger, feed it to Fumiko, and then Challenge Pochita to a duel next Christmas next chapter

 

[GunshyFever]

While everyone's on the topic about Asa/Yoru. Can we please change her page name from "War Fiend (Asa Mitaka)" to just "Asa Mitaka" or something.

Like imma be fr the War Fiend is an ASS name I have not seen a single person call Asa that or it even being mentioned anywhere. Not in verse or in fandom. It's not even a canon alias We don't do this BS on any other page here. Not even the Violence Fiend, we just use his true name. Just makes searching for her a real pain in the ass.

Yeah, I've always found it weird . The page should probably be titled "Asa Mitaka" and if we get feats for Prime Yoru, we can create her own page. Also, Asa's page looks like it might need some special attention .

 

[GunshyFever]

Can't wait for Yoru to break Yoshida's neck, rip off her trigger finger, feed it to Fumiko, and then Challenge Pochita to a duel next Christmas next chapter

Part 2 is ending in like April or July. So maybe on the 1st of July.

 

[CowHeadGod]

Also, Asa's page looks like it might need some special attention .

Yeah, I've seen there's a recent CRT about her posted. However, I'm gonna be completely honest, I haven't actually properly sat down and read through her current profile yet lol...

But I will say though, having a seperate P/A tabber for her weapons like we do with Devil Contracts on Aki's profile is something that will probably greatly help for a start.