Celestialsapiens HDE needs a revision

[Gohanblanco217]

If 5D Alien x is gonna get accepted can't we re-add the "transcending our plane of existence" as a supporting evidence ?

 

[ShionAH]

Higher Dimensional manp is not necessarily hax shion, we can manipulate 3 Dimensional objects physically that doesn't have to be hax, it's just that Manipulating something physically w/o using hax or range all based on your physical body implies Dimensionality if there is evidence. I said the samething before.

No what I am saying is if Alien X already gets a Likely/Possibly 5D from this then theres no need for Dimensional Manip Hax

 

[ShionAH]

If 5D Alien x is gonna get accepted can't we re-add the "transcending our plane of existence" as a supporting evidence ?

Its already there so I think it can be something like "which would mean Alien X is at least 4D and possibly 5D"

 

[Robo432343]

where did 5d hde come out from

 

[Reiner04]

No what I am saying is if Alien X already gets a Likely/Possibly 5D from this then theres no need for Dimensional Manip Hax

He can get both for the samething, if definition fullfills, one is supportive evidence, other is direct feat.

 

[ImmortalDread]

And the proof for 5D would be if he is on the same level as contumelias

In terms of dimensionality or power? If it is the latter, I don't think these suffices.

 

[ShionAH]

where did 5d hde come out from

Idk

At this time, I don't see an issue with them being likely 5-D.

Firestorm do you agree with passive dimensional manipulation? Or is not needed because Alien is already getting a possibly rating

 

[Robo432343]

hold on if contumelia is 5d hde why cant alien x have 5d hde

 

[ImmortalDread]

In terms of dimensionality or power? If it is the latter, I don't think these suffices.

hold on if contumelia is 5d hde why cant alien x have 5d hde

 

[Reiner04]

Smh, stop derailing with asking what happened and read the thread. It's derailing to repeat the same stuff.

 

[Greenshifter]

Eh... Celestial sapiens had mind haxed entire verse into forgetting the changes they have made till now, although dunno if it's that relevant here regardless.

Biggest bs ever.

 

[Reiner04]

Biggest bs ever.

That's vsbw thing. I can't do anything about it

 

[Greenshifter]

That's vsbw thing. I can't do anything about it

It's Blanco's fault iirc. One revision where I don't pay much attention and the biggest bs ever is accepted. Can you use the "time was destroyed as well" scan or not?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Biggest bs ever.

Facts are facts

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

In terms of dimensionality or power? If it is the latter, I don't think these suffices.

Heirarchy of alien wise.

Hard to explain. But yeah most of it can be just power which is insufficient as i said

 

[DonkeySlayer06]

I agree

 

[Georredannea15]

I was too lazy to read the revision from start to finish, so I am writing my direct comment.

First of all, let me say that transcending a 4D plane of existence is not enough for 5D HDE according to DT. In order to have this, you need to have +1 axis.

Also, the fact that Alien X could physically break through or touch this 5D barrier wouldn't give him 5D HDE. It would give just range

 

[ImmortalDread]

Georr, finish the OP, being lazy don't excuse this.

 

[Reiner04]

Also, the fact that Alien X could physically break through or touch this 5D barrier wouldn't

It's not range rip, there must be Qualitative superiority for that, neither it's hax, nor range as CPs don't have Low 1-C range physically to begin with, neither chromastone, it's casual HD manp with just physical touch, nothing more nothing less, same as we can manipulate 3 D objects w/o hax or anything. It's a implication and supporting evidence for transcending spacetime and Extra-Dimensional.

 

[PrinceofPein]

All HDE revisions should be put on hold till I am done with what I am working on

 

[ImmortalDread]

It's not range rip, there must be Qualitative superiority for that, neither it's hax, nor range as CPs don't have Low 1-C range physically to begin with, neither chromastone, it's casual HD manp with just physical touch, nothing more nothing less, same as we can manipulate 3 D objects w/o hax or anything. It's a implication and supporting evidence for transcending spacetime and Extra-Dimensional.

Dw he did not finish reading the whole OP, I doubt his stance would be valid for addressing half of argument.

 

[Georredannea15]

It's not range rip, there must be Qualitative superiority for that, neither it's hax, nor range as CPs don't have Low 1-C range physically to begin with, neither chromastone, it's casual HD manp with just physical touch, nothing more nothing less, same as we can manipulate 3 D objects w/o hax or anything. It's a implication and supporting evidence for transcending spacetime and Extra-Dimensional.

True, but you cannot mathematically give the +1 dimensional axis from "transcending our plane of existence". It may not be a qualitative transcendence, or it may be a physical transcendence. That's exactly what I meant.

 

[Georredannea15]

Dw he did not finish reading the whole OP, I doubt his stance would be valid for addressing half of argument.

I'm done and frankly my views are still same. More precisely, I would have thought logically before hearing it from DT, but by standards it's not a 5D HDE. That's what DT said.

 

[Reiner04]

True, but you cannot mathematically give the +1 dimensional axis from "transcending our plane of existence". It may not be a qualitative transcendence, or it may be a physical transcendence. That's exactly what I meant.

We can, as long as there is good enough implication for that in case of proving otherwise has no basis.

Celestial sapiens Manipulating HD objects casually w/o Hax or range physically same as we can to 3D objects. Stated by author in a Official interview to transcend Dimensions and are Extra-Dimensional, transcend our plane of Existence.

 

[ImmortalDread]

True, but you cannot mathematically give the +1 dimensional axis from "transcending our plane of existence". It may not be a qualitative transcendence, or it may be a physical transcendence. That's exactly what I meant.

Can you explain to it how you cannot mathematically give +1 dimensional axis?

 

[Georredannea15]

Can you explain to it how you cannot mathematically give +1 dimensional axis?

I've given an example before, but I'll give it again. Athena is a good example for this. Its transcendence was to move to a higher dimensional plane than the 4D plane of existence, but this did not mathematically give it a +1 axis. It was just a physical transcendence. That's why we're no longer Tier 1 smurfs

 

[Reiner04]

I've given an example before, but I'll give it again. Athena is a good example for this. Its transcendence was to move to a higher dimensional plane than the 4D plane of existence, but this did not mathematically give it a +1 axis. It was just a physical transcendence. That's why we're no longer Tier 1 smurfs

GOW has higher Dimensions? How many? 26D? Can you show me Higher Dimensional quotes in them.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Foremost, no you did not give an example in this post
Second of all, giving a whataboutism argument to not respond to my question is actually a weak move.

Lastly, this is not even an answer, this is simply "My verse did not get it, therefore this won't get it, and by that, I made my own (claim) and won't respond to a fair question that has been given"

 

[Georredannea15]

Foremost, no you did not give an example in this post
Second of all, giving a whataboutism argument to not respond to my question is actually a weak move.

Lastly, this is not even an answer, this is simply "My verse did not get it, therefore this won't get it, and by that, I made my own (claim) and won't respond to a fair question that has been given"

You are probably too ignorant to realize that this is an example.

 

[ImmortalDread]

My bad I am ignorant for not realizing a nonexistent example in your main post.

 

[Georredannea15]

GOW has higher Dimensions? How many? 26D? Can you show me Higher Dimensional quotes in them.

Yes, we have a character and higher dimensional existence that transcends the 4D plane of existence. Of course, it was also nuked later for these reasons.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Yes, we have a character and higher dimensional existence that transcends the 4D plane of existence. Of course, it was also nuked later for these reasons.

This was not his question and demand. Read it again:

How many? 26D? Can you show me Higher Dimensional quotes in them.

 

[Georredannea15]

My bad I am ignorant for not realizing a nonexistent example in your main post.

Yes, it's your bad. Wow you said something right for the first time.

 

[Reiner04]

Yes, we have a character and higher dimensional existence that transcends the 4D plane of existence. Of course, it was also nuked later for these reasons.

I asked for higher Dimensions bro? Like 5th dimension, 26th Dimensions that has been established in ben 10 and so logical to be equated at. Does higher Dimensions has been established in GoW?

 

[Robo432343]

georr shut up i will take this to rvr if you keep talkin like dat

 

[Georredannea15]

This was not his question and demand. Read it again:

Dude can you tell me the similarity between this revision and 26D? It's just about transcending the 4-D plane of existence.

 

[ImmortalDread]

This is still not the answer to his question, rip.

 

[Georredannea15]

georr shut up i will take this to rvr if you keep talkin like dat

You are free to do. I'm just saying it won't be a 5-D HDE from what DT says.

 

[Reiner04]

Dude can you tell me the similarity between this revision and 26D? It's just about transcending the 4-D plane of existence.

Because in case GoW transcending spacetime won't mean higher Dimensions as mathematical higher Dimensions don't exist in them in the first place unlike ben 10, aren't we DT worshipper to know that?

 

[ImmortalDread]

He is indeed DT worshipper, like he thinks we need to be convinced if he says "DT"