Celestialsapiens HDE needs a revision

[Aachintya31]

Since in previous CRT , It wasn't properly evaluated i am bringing it here again. Alien X is stated to have transcended the very plane of existence. In the context of this verse , The plane of reality refers to 4D spacetime.

Forge of Creation (The Place where Celestialsapiens are born ) is beyond Team Alien Force's comprehension

The official QnA says Celestialsapiens are Extra-dimensional which goes along with the above scans scaling Alien X to the Extradimensional Barrier's Dimensionality.( may or may not be usable but the above things still stands )

Contumelia are 5D beings who made the Annihilarrgh. To protect themselves from the upcoming release of energy ,they made a barrier which they deem extradimensional. . Celestialsapien sword was able to breach through that barrier physically which would be impossible mathematically if celestialsapiens are lower dimensional than the barrier.

Celestialsapiens currently have 4D HDE. This is just an increase in dimensionality to 5D

It was implied, Celestial sapiens can casually manipulate higher Dimensions with mere their physical body (breaching wrapping Extra-Dimensional barrier), just same as we can do with 3 dimensional objects, we don't need hax for it. Alien X currently don't have L1-C range with mere his physical body but with his powers (energy explosion) and hax (EE, reality wrapping, mind manp) which he cannot use while being chromastone even if can use physical strength of alien x.


Votes
Agree : @Spectral69420 ,@LuffyRuffy46307 ,@TheShape03 ,@Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @Firestorm808 (likely 5D)
Disagree : @ShionAH , @RavenCPN ,@Dragonite007
Neutral : @Robo

 

[Spectral69420]

Agree.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I fully agree

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

Oh boy.

 

[TheShape03]

I agree.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@Firestorm808

Thoughts?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Don't spam the thread with unnecessary comments, thank you.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Anyway I agree with the OP

 

[RaveeCPN]

Disagree, this is just AP

With this logic, lets give HDE to Kevin since he can interact with Alien X physically

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@Reiner since you are knowledgeable member

@Elizhaa @Everything12 @Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT

Thoughts overall?

 

[Barbar01]

Why are we giving HDE from here?

 

[Dragonite007]

Contumelia are 5D beings who made the Annihilarrgh. To protect themselves from the upcoming release of energy ,they made a barrier which they deem extradimensional. Since the barrier is extradimensional to 5D beings ,it should be atleast 6D in nature. Celestialsapien sword was able to breach through that barrier physically which would be impossible mathematically if celestialsapiens are lower dimensional than the barrier. I propose Celestialsapiens should be upgraded to 6D Higher dimensional Existence.
Celestialsapiens currently have 4D HDE. This is just an increase in dimensionality.

Votes
Agree : @Spectral69420 ,@LuffyRuffy46307 ,@TheShape03 ,@Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Disagree :
Neutral :

This is just range, not HDE

 

[Spectral69420]

This is just range, not HDE

How is that only range?

 

[ShionAH]

This is range.

 

[Dragonite007]

How is that only range?

You only need range to affect a character with HDE.

And Alien X is already Low 1-C

 

[Barbar01]

only

This is incorrect

 

[Dragonite007]

This is incorrect

Dura ≠ HDE

 

[Aachintya31]

Disagree, this is just AP

With this logic, lets give HDE to Kevin since he can interact with Alien X physically

Alien X is already has HDE
Additionally interacting alone isn't the case here as lower dimensional being may be capable of interacting with them through lower-dimensional "slices" or cross-sections of their bodies. The case here is literally breaking through it which was stated to extra dimensional and inpenetrable.

You only need range to affect a character with HDE.

And Alien X is already Low 1-C

This is range

No tiering system does not work on dimensional tiering.

 

[ShionAH]

Alien X is already has HDE
Additionally interacting alone isn't the case here as lower dimensional being may be capable of interacting with them through lower-dimensional "slices" or cross-sections of their bodies. The case here is literally breaking through it which was stated to extra dimensional.

Alien X already has 5D AP and 5D range. Those are the only things needed to hit higher dimension stuff

 

[Robo432343]

Celestialsapiens currently have 4D HDE. This is just an increase in dimensionality.

they have 5D HDE actually

 

[Aachintya31]

they have 5D HDE actually

it was downgraded.

 

[ShionAH]

they have 5D HDE actually

4D

 

[Barbar01]

Dura ≠ HDE

Let's take an example from Alien x
her body contains a universe, doesn't it?
without ap how are you going to destroy it with just range

 

[ShionAH]

Let's take an example from Alien x
her body contains a universe, doesn't it?
without ap how are you going to destroy it with just range

Alien X has both AP and Range. So its pretty normal he can do this

 

[Aachintya31]

Let's take an example from Alien x
her body contains a universe, doesn't it?
without ap how are you going to destroy it with just range

Not my point. its derailing.

Alien X already has 5D AP and 5D range. Those are the only things needed to hit higher dimension stuff

Contumelia aren't low 1-C because they are 5D. 5D AP and range comes from annihilaarg and Chrono navigator scaling.

 

[Barbar01]

Alien X has both AP and Range. So its pretty normal he can do this

I don't understand what you are talking about? I already argue that Crt does not give HDE?

 

[ShionAH]

Contumelia aren't low 1-C because they are 5D. 5D AP and range comes from annihilaarg and Chrono navigator scaling.

Okay? Alien still has 5D stuff here which means he can do that feat.

I don't understand what you are talking about? I already argue that Crt does not give HDE?

Yes I agreed with you

 

[Dragonite007]

Let's take an example from Alien x
her body contains a universe, doesn't it?
without ap how are you going to destroy it with just range

"Universe", your own question is your answer.

Destroying 4D human-sized structure ≠ Low 2-C.
Destroying 4D universal-sized structure = Low 2-C

 

[Aachintya31]

Okay? Alien still has 5D stuff here which means he can do that feat.

you are bringing AP and range of dimensional tiering which has no significance here.

 

[Barbar01]

"Universe", your own question is your answer.

Destroying 4D human-sized structure ≠ Low 2-C.
Destroying 4D universal-sized structure = Low 2-C

what are you talking about bro ☠

 

[Barbar01]

what are you talking about bro ☠

what's that got to do with what i said

 

[Dragonite007]

what are you talking about bro ☠

What are you talking about?

 

[Dragonite007]

what's that got to do with what i said

That is literaly what you said

 

[ShionAH]

you are bringing AP and range of dimensional tiering which has no significance here.

You are arguing for HDE because Alien X used his AP and Range to effect something which is complete non sense

That is literaly what you said

pretty sure both of you are on the same page

 

[Barbar01]

That is literaly what you said

learn the working logic of pocket dimensions

 

[Aachintya31]

You are arguing for HDE because Alien X used his AP and Range to effect something which is complete non sense

You are arguing something based off dimensional tiering which is complete irrelevant here.
Being a 5th dimensional being doesnt automatically grants someone Low 1-C AP and Range
and having Low 1-C AP and range doesn't grant someone 5th dimensional existence.

 

[ShionAH]

You are arguing something based off dimensional tiering which is complete irrelevant here.
Being a 5th dimensional being doesnt automatically grants someone Low 1-C AP and Range
and having Low 1-C AP and range doesn't grant someone 5th dimensional existence.

YES. Thats why this CRT is wrong. Alien X has AP and Range so he can do it but that doesnt mean he for some unknown reason has HDE

 

[Reiner04]

Agree, btw Official QnA.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Disagree, this is just AP

With this logic, lets give HDE to Kevin since he can interact with Alien X physically

I think someone will use this someday to disprove Alien X 5D

 

[Aachintya31]

YES. Thats why this CRT is wrong. Alien X has AP and Range so he can do it but that doesnt mean he for some unknown reason has HDE

the barrier is Atleast 6D, possibly higher purely by dimensionality . Alien X AP and Range comes from scaling from things which are higher infinity and not by dimensionality. You are mixing them.