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Celestial Chaos| Bill Cipher vs Alien X | 3-5-0
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Mana is also pire energy as far as I'm aware so Alien x would be EE It too
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NEP energy haha
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Bill is NEP on Energy too
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Bills NEP is the best ******* thing on the wiki.Bill is NEP on Energy too
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I was reading only incorporeability, fair enough
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did X get or has anything new to contest with bill
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oh yeah alien x has clones so he could probably clone himself along with bill to keep bill in incapped with tk or body puppetry
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i wasent the one who suddenly bumped the thread, i was just giving X a possible win con!
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I am a large fan of Bill Cipher but Alien X takes the win. Here is my reasoning, Alien X is automatically resistant to Mind Manipulation because Alien X has 3 minds, the Host and the Natural 2 Celestialsapien Minds. If Bill Cipher were to possess one of the minds it would do no good as all minds would have to be in complete agreence in order to complete a plan. Not to mention Bill Cipher scales to 2-A while Alien X was recently scaled up to 1-B
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Alien X is only possibly 1-B and this match had him at 2-A, Bill's wincons was to simply locate the pocket dimension and kill all the minds, and X had no way to put down Bill
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Bill Cipher is only possibly 2-A as well, his only determined tier is Low 2-C
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His 2-A key was used, while X's 1-B wasent
Even if then if Bill was L2-C, X would have no way of actually fully killing Bill, while Bill still has varies hax he could use
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You do realize Celestial Sapiens are capable of destroying universes with a single thought, meanwhile Bill gets spray painted in the face and he yelped in pain
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Ok X can hurt Bill, but how is he gonna stop him? Bill simply regenerates from X's universal destruction and uses his serveral hax, like soul manipulation to kill X
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Alien X literal can lift an entire Universe and he is also unbound by the laws of time and physics and he can travel so fast he can generate a Black Hole and dont forget he also Alien X will destroy Bill's Physical Form completely and also Alien X is resistant to Mind Manipulation, Existance Erasure, and Time Manipulation, face it! Bill takes the L in this battle
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Nope, Alien X has 3 SEPERATE MINDS (The Host, Serena, and Bellicus) Bill could potentially take out the host but not the actual minds
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Bill can regenerate without a physical form, Bill can just teleport out of the Black Hole, Bill is also unbounded by Laws Time and Physics, and Bill can use his Soul Manipulation to just kill X
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Face the stats
Strength: Alien X
Speed: Bill Cipher
IQ: Bill Cipher
Battle IQ: Alien X
AP: Alien X
Durability: Alien X
Attack Speed: Alien X
Agility: Alien X
Ability: Bill Cipher
Experience: Bill Cipher
Feats: Alien X
Range: Alien X
Hax: Alien X
Face it! The infamous Dorito is no longer #1 most powerful cartoon character
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are you trolling or something, based on their profiles X has literally no way of killing Bill, you cannot use something that isnt on their profiles, and Bill has serveral ways of taking down X
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Tell that to the large community on youtube who accept Bill Cipher's Fate to Alien X
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Bill just makes Ben mad and then kills Alien X
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LMAO
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Now I know what it is like to argue with a Bill Cipher fanboy
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Alien X is resistant to:
- Existence Erasure, Space-Time Manipulation (Survived the destruction of the entire Universe by the Annihilarrgh)
- Biological Manipulation, Transmutation (Was unaffected by Ben trying to detransform with the Omnitrix and Bellicus stated that Ben was never detransforming)
- Fire Manipulation (Ben wouldn't have died even if put on fire for thousands of years)
- All the abilities and resistances provided by the Omnitrix
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the only chance Bill has to defeat Alien X is to attack him while Alien X's 3 personalities are making a decision
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And thats a appeal to popularity fallacy
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What would they even do
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Look I was like you once, always convinced Bill would win a fight, until I faced the facts, Bill and Alien X are both powerful being but in the end, Alien X wins
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You do know they recreated a universe with a single thought right?
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And? Doesnt mean they can stop Bill from regenerating
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That isnt an arguement either
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Most likely yes, Bill couldn't escape the Nightmare Realm without the portal and the fact that Alien X effortlessly recreated a Universe makes Alien X power's known
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Also Bill Cipher can only remove someone's soul IF they shake his hand and Alien X has 3 Seperate Minds which makes it more difficult for Bill to take over
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Bill has dimensional travel to escape the universe, although it does not have a justifacation so sure maybe X could do it, but I dont think he would do that off the bat
Sure Bill needs to make a deal to manipulate the soul, however does not need to with the mind and can interact with mutiple minds at once without needing to enter them. Profile justifacation (Bill implies he now doesn't need dreams to enter minds, as he intended to enter Ford's mind anyway if he did not have the metal plate,[7] Bill can also now mind control people when he wants, leaving them as flying puppets[7] with no consciousness.[11] Paralyzed the minds of all the zodiac symbols before turning them into banners. Shown[7] twice[8] that he can leave his physical form to enter the Mindscape)
And Bill still does have his subjective reality to just imagine X to be defeated
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According to Alien X's Page, Alien X has Eternal Life, Regeneration, and Transcendental Immortality which means characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed. Also in the show, a character stated that Alien X had the potential to wish everything out of Existence. Also, the people that Bill possessed scale to somewhere in the 8-C through 8-A region while Alien X scales to 2-A and possibly 1-B. Also, Alien X is a being who has Acausality Type 4 and Alien X can easily travel to locations outside the Universe like the Forge and don't forget Bill Cipher is not resistant to Existance Erasure and Alien X has that ability and would erase Bill from the Physical World leaving his mindscape form erased.
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