Guardian_Doge
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Fine, I didn't want to make a serious reply, but I REALLY hate these zastando copy paste.
Let's start:
It’s consistently stated how the unconscious is built on the notion of being able to commensurate with space and time in a form of where space and time are “no longer space and time”
because remember while it is still bound by it, it’s a “vague” concept, it still holds value.
One of the most Important people to both Jung personally and his work J. B. Rhine, worked on the concept of synchronicity, which is the conditioned spatio-temporal nature of the psyche and unconscious. Carl Jung explicitly used this.
^In the same paragraph he describes them as postulated, which means accepted as a basis, so yet another scan applying the interpretation of space and time being the nature of the unconscious.
Here’s another scan, and let me quote in bold what here I’m using as proof.
“Here I will only point out that it is the decisive factors in the unconscious psyche, the archetypes, which constitute the structure of the collective unconsciousness. The latter represents a psyche that is identical in all individuals.”
This means that archetypes and the things they are (.ie the archetype of a burger and what not) make the intrinsic nature collective unconscious. Which brings me to a previous argument people use aka jungian numbers (archetypes).
Said scan:
If the archetype of Depth, surface, flatness, and height (all corresponding to different perspective or “dimensions” of space) then this functionally means with all the scan above I posted, that the CU is in fact made up by spatial and temporal measures.
To sum it up here's a final scan:
It says under certain conditions can it break the limits of space and time, so it’s
“The result of the spatial experiment proves with tolerable certainty that the psyche can, TO SOME EXTENT, eliminate the space factor.”
“The time experiment proves, that the time factor (at any rate, in the dimension of the future) can become PHYSICALLY RELATIVE.”
That's that.
"Twenty-five hundred years ago, Pythagoras taught that the simple counting numbers are the basic building blocks of reality. A century and a half later, Plato argued that the world we live in is but a poor copy of the world of ideas. Neither realized that their numbers and ideas might also be the most basic components of the human psych: archetypes. This book traces the modern evolution of this idea from the Renaissance to the 20th century, leading up to the archetypal hypothesis of psychologist C. G. Jung, and the mirroring of mathematical ideas of Kurt Gödel."
The ONLY mathematical theorem implied to be used for the Collective Unconsciousness was the continuum hypothesis
Not only that this is also mentioned in the book how natural numbers are what are used as archetypes, something you'd know if you actually bought the book.
Another scan of Jung explaining how it's natural numbers, not transfinite.
My conclusion is you're wrong, I won't directly accuse you of using zastando on purpose, this could be from a random blog you went on (or discord server) so I don't want you to take this personally, but please read your own sources and material before making a CRT like this, thank you.
This very scan is just so out of line with what jung really applied to the nature of the psyche. If it's being related to Plato's realm of forms which is simply a Higher level of reality that's invisible to the physical world. Then it shouldn't be any more than a dimensional transcendence, which by the way in itself is questionable given plato's cave kind of indicates that any human can tap into their mind and perceive this realm.
Anyway, moving on, I'm going to ignore your scans and just counter it with my multitude of scans explaining how the psyche as a whole is bound by space-time.
Let's start:
It’s consistently stated how the unconscious is built on the notion of being able to commensurate with space and time in a form of where space and time are “no longer space and time”
because remember while it is still bound by it, it’s a “vague” concept, it still holds value.
One of the most Important people to both Jung personally and his work J. B. Rhine, worked on the concept of synchronicity, which is the conditioned spatio-temporal nature of the psyche and unconscious. Carl Jung explicitly used this.
^In the same paragraph he describes them as postulated, which means accepted as a basis, so yet another scan applying the interpretation of space and time being the nature of the unconscious.
Here’s another scan, and let me quote in bold what here I’m using as proof.
“Here I will only point out that it is the decisive factors in the unconscious psyche, the archetypes, which constitute the structure of the collective unconsciousness. The latter represents a psyche that is identical in all individuals.”
This means that archetypes and the things they are (.ie the archetype of a burger and what not) make the intrinsic nature collective unconscious. Which brings me to a previous argument people use aka jungian numbers (archetypes).
Said scan:
If the archetype of Depth, surface, flatness, and height (all corresponding to different perspective or “dimensions” of space) then this functionally means with all the scan above I posted, that the CU is in fact made up by spatial and temporal measures.
To sum it up here's a final scan:
It says under certain conditions can it break the limits of space and time, so it’s
- Hypothetical standards we only can visualize in a fictionality, therefore using it correctly as a rating therefore wank it to oblivion. Or..
- We accept the fact, the CU is bound by space-time, being trans-spatial and trans-temporal in nature to the given set of dimensions portrayed.
“The result of the spatial experiment proves with tolerable certainty that the psyche can, TO SOME EXTENT, eliminate the space factor.”
“The time experiment proves, that the time factor (at any rate, in the dimension of the future) can become PHYSICALLY RELATIVE.”
That's that.
As for this, no. Get out. This book was made to explain the theories proposed by Jung, Godel, and Cantor, it NEVER once was explained how these correlate to archetypes, as the title says "Jung, Gödel, and the History of Archetypes", hell read the description of the book.:
"Twenty-five hundred years ago, Pythagoras taught that the simple counting numbers are the basic building blocks of reality. A century and a half later, Plato argued that the world we live in is but a poor copy of the world of ideas. Neither realized that their numbers and ideas might also be the most basic components of the human psych: archetypes. This book traces the modern evolution of this idea from the Renaissance to the 20th century, leading up to the archetypal hypothesis of psychologist C. G. Jung, and the mirroring of mathematical ideas of Kurt Gödel."
The ONLY mathematical theorem implied to be used for the Collective Unconsciousness was the continuum hypothesis
Not only that this is also mentioned in the book how natural numbers are what are used as archetypes, something you'd know if you actually bought the book.
Another scan of Jung explaining how it's natural numbers, not transfinite.
My conclusion is you're wrong, I won't directly accuse you of using zastando on purpose, this could be from a random blog you went on (or discord server) so I don't want you to take this personally, but please read your own sources and material before making a CRT like this, thank you.
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