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Can I do another goku vs sonic thread?

CR_Catinho said:
not really , they'll both go H2H at the beginning , so goku's only chance is to finish this before sonic pulls out the hax card , which why i'm trynna figure out the AP difference
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Well they say sonic is half low 2-C but his durability is much higher than his AP while goku is supposed to be at least >> half low 2-C which would make him 2-C but that isn't in the profiles so IDK. The argument here is goku won't be able to defeat sonic and will eventually power down and lose.
 
CR_Catinho said:
okay but how much stronger do you have to be to actually hrt him ?
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It's unknown, since the enemies that did damaged Super Sonic did more with durability negation abilities rather than pure brute strength, but what we do know is that his durability vastly exceeds his AP
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
It's unknown, since the enemies that did damaged Super Sonic did more with durability negation abilities rather than pure brute strength, but what we do know is that his durability vastly exceeds his AP
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So that's resistance to durability negation, if he still is stronger in durability then we gotta know by how much, am I wrong?
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Well they say sonic is half low 2-C but his durability is much higher than his AP while goku is supposed to be at least >> half low 2-C which would make him 2-C but that isn't in the profiles so IDK. The argument here is goku won't be able to defeat sonic and will eventually power down and lose.
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he's not just >> half 2-C , there's a long scaling chain starting with all 12 GoDs + jiren and MUI is on top of it
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
It's unknown, since the enemies that did damaged Super Sonic did more with durability negation abilities rather than pure brute strength, but what we do know is that his durability vastly exceeds his AP
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well we can't just assume goku can't damage him , especially when vastly more powerful too ( in terms of AP )


in this circumstance i think i gonna vote incon .

Since both go H2H and we're not sure if sonic can outlast MUI with his durability or not .
 
CR_Catinho said:
he's not just >> half 2-C , there's a long scaling chain starting with all 12 GoDs + jiren and MUI is on top of it

well we can't just assume goku can't damage him , especially when vastly more powerful too ( in terms of AP )


in this circumstance i think i gonna vote incon .

Since both go H2H and we're not sure if sonic can outlast MUI with his durability or not .
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I agree, inconclusive is probably correct.
 
Gonna actually go out on a limb and say Sonic rather than Inconclusive.

If Super Sonic's durability is the reason you all are scratching your heads, then I'm inclined to say MUI Goku has no means of putting him down. As a 4-A, Super Sonic is unaffected by the attacks of Metal Overlord. Which requires the AP of a Triple Super Form Team Blast within Sonic Heroes to even harm him. And a Team Blast acts as Statistics Amplification on top of what their AP would be together. It would obviously be fallacious to say his durability is over three times greater than his AP in all his AP values, since that would make no sense and we can't just do that, but the disadvantage in AP that his durability covers seems to be absolutely monstrous due to this.

MUI won't be able to put a scratch on Sonic, and Sonic eventually uses one of his many durability-negating hax to pull a win sooner rather than later.
 
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then this is a stomp, goku literally can’t do anything here
ShakeResounding said:
Gonna actually go out on a limb and say Sonic rather than Inconclusive.

If Super Sonic's durability is the reason you all are scratching your heads, then I'm inclined to say MUI Goku has no means of putting him down. As a 4-A, Super Sonic is unaffected by the attacks of Metal Overlord. Which requires the AP of a Triple Super Form Team Blast within Sonic Heroes to even harm him. It would obviously be fallacious to say his durability is three times greater than his AP in all his AP values, since that would make no sense and we can't just do thag, but the disadvantage in AP that his durability covers seems to be absolutely monstrous due to this.

MUI won't be able to put a scratch on Sonic, and Sonic eventually uses one of his many durability-negating hax to pull a win sooner rather than later.
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Sonic FRA

Goku would have a really hard time hitting Sonic due to Sonic having stonewall durability, better stamina and haxes to put Goku down after realizing physical hits doesn't work due to Instictive Reactions
 
Anyways, I guess this should be closed boe and removed from the profiles since they seem to have been added.
 
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