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They don't have mind and don't have concept of being someone so no, you need feat if affecting NEP 2 to affect NEP2.Yes for NEP 2. Depends on the concept. If you can manipulate the concept of someone's mind then it would work on NEP 2. Its not like they're devoid of all concepts
They would have a concept of a mindThey don't have mind and don't have concept of being someone so no, you need feat if affecting NEP 2 to affect NEP2.
No what you tell is just basically NEP1They would have a concept of a mind
Make that 3No for NEP 2 (2)
Have you actually read the NEP page? That's still NEP Type 1.They would have a concept of a mind
NEP 2 is just devoid of your concept. Not devoid of all concepts. if that were the case you would be devoid of all concepts of dimensions and be outerversal. You would also be unbound by any conceptNo what you tell is just basically NEP1
Being unbound by concepts isn't OuterversalNEP 2 is just devoid of your concept. Not devoid of all concepts. if that were the case you would be devoid of all concepts of dimensions and be outerversal. You would also be unbound by any concept
Depended on the cosmology of the verse to do so anyway.NEP 2 is just devoid of your concept. Not devoid of all concepts. if that were the case you would be devoid of all concepts of dimensions and be outerversal. You would also be unbound by any concept
^^^^^^^Being unbound by concepts isn't Outerversal
That's not how that works here.
All concepts, which includes higher concepts. And by your logic it would make you 5D at least anywaysBeing unbound by concepts isn't Outerversal
That's not how that works here.
Another absurd claim...All concepts, which includes higher concepts. And by your logic it would make you 5D at least anyways
Agreed...Another absurd claim...
Lacking concepts =/= being superior.All concepts, which includes higher concepts. And by your logic it would make you 5D at least anyways
What he said ^^^^^^^^Lacking concepts =/= being superior.
And all concepts is only whatever scale exists in a verse.
But I still think that you keep thinking transduality's sole purpose is to be unbounded by duality instead of transcending it.
No for NEP 2
No for NEP 2 (2)
Make that 3
Ok.. thank you all.Anyway, Yes for Type 1. No for Type 2. You need feats for that.
Did you even read the NEP page? Type 1s live as voids, Type 2 not even that.And another question, can Void manip like manipulation of nothingness and conversion to existence work to NEP2? Or it just work to NEP1?
Type 2 is virtually abstract existence type 1 on an unfathomable amount of steroids.Did you even read the NEP page? Type 1s live as voids, Type 2 not even that.
Yes and i found this, NEP2 entities are typically presented as primordial voids or pure emptinessDid you even read the NEP page?
2: Idealistic Nonexistence: The lack of absolutely everything to a state of nonexistence at a conceptual level. Such a state defies even the most basic logical principles and is unknowable in the truest form, as it is not a state at all. Such entities are typically presented as primordial voids or pure emptiness, or any abstract state which precedes or opposes the state of existence on all levels. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.
Doesn't mean it could be manipulated or countered by void manipulation without feats of doing so.Yes and i found this, NEP2 entities are typically presented as primordial voids or pure emptiness
Ahh.. okDoesn't mean it could be manipulated or countered by void manipulation without feats of doing so.
I mean seriously void manipulation could most probably be used again type 1 but never against a being that lacks any fundamental existence on a conceptual level.Ahh.. ok
YesBasically, you need feats. By default, Void Manipulation can affect Type 1 though.
Why is it absurd?Another absurd claim...
If you lack a concept of death, you wouldnt be bound by death. Same logic applies. Why would it only apply to whatever concepts exist in a verse when its all concepts? Still didn't tell me how NEP 2 means you are a conceptless being devoid of all concepts which would be non dualityLacking concepts =/= being superior.
And all concepts is only whatever scale exists in a verse.
Being unbound by space-time isn't even a feat nowadays, same goes for being unbound by anything. And lacking concepts isn't even non-duality. You just dont exist on a conceptual level. Quit trying to make this more impressive than it is.Why is it absurd?
If you lack a concept of death, you wouldnt be bound by death. Same logic applies. Why would it only apply to whatever concepts exist in a verse when its all concepts? Still didn't tell me how NEP 2 means you are a conceptless being devoid of all concepts which would be non duality
Non-duality?Being unbound by space-time isn't even a feat nowadays, same goes for being unbound by anything. And lacking concepts isn't even non-duality. You just dont exist on a conceptual level. Quit trying to make this more impressive than it is.
That's how we treat it and you just stating otherwise won't change it. Don't like how that works? Revise the Tiering System and Conceptual Manipulation.
Lacking a concept is more of an immunity or resistanceWhatever the heck he was talking about, idk.
If that's the case ask the person who created the page.I don't know where its stated in the NEP profile that type 2 means you lack all concepts
OkIf that's the case ask the person who created the page.