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Calebcity discussion thread

Emirp sumitpo said:
Can you imagine if we could index Griffy
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I used to do that. Hm, I wonder if I can find the page I made all that time ago.

He has some decent stuff, but not nearly as broken as Caleb.

RDCWorld and LenarrYoung also have their fair share of hax.

(Ngl tho I feel like some certain vsbw users would be opposed to having Griffy here because of some of his video takes)
 
Yeah, Griffy is pretty contentious I ain't gonna lie. And his hax and AP stuff are generally nowhere near as good as Caleb's, like I think his best feat is Planetary? And that's via weaponry and stuff, his normal AP goes up to like Wall level.

RDC does have some good hax and AP stuff, like they got some decent skill, AP that ranges from 7-B to 5-B physically, but not as good as Caleb's.

But none of the other ones have the whole canon composite thing afaik, so them having profiles is pretty sketchy.
 
RDCWorld profiles would be nice to have up against Caleb, they're got similar ratings on all sides
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Wouldn't the came to reality thing kinda null it?
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He's still a being made up by a girl's dream and him coming back up to reality means he has control over his abstraction. It could be a mix of Type 1 and Type 2
Type 1 if he is simply just his own dream self while Type 2 if he's back to reality since he can just bring himself back to reality unless you kill the dream.
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Also don't think we give Invulnerability to dudes just because they can no-sell punches
Same thing with the pain and the sleep manip
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Yeah the Invulnerability is kinda iffy but def need more input on that
The sleep manip is pretty clear cut, the text outright says "Sleep my child" and "The one that keeps you up" and the feat is shown
The pain manip should also be pretty clear, the minion is saying "this is a different and new type of pain" after getting punched
 
GeliumE said:
The sleep manip is pretty clear cut, the text outright says "Sleep my child" and "The one that keeps you up" and the feat is shown
The pain manip should also be pretty clear, the minion is saying "this is a different and new type of pain" after punching someone
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Pretty sure we don't give sleep manip to characters if they just knock someone out, don't see how this is any different
Minion was probably saying that cause he got kicked by someone who could incap him with a breath, and not because OP Caleb has the supernatural ability to inflict pain
 
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Adem_Warlock69 said:
Pretty sure we don't give sleep manip to characters if they just knock someone out, don't see how this is any different
Minion was probably saying that cause he got kicked by someone who could incap him with a breath, not really because OP Caleb has the supernatural power to inflict pain
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It isn't just knocking someone out, his abilities has names such as DayQuil (Day) and NyQuil (Night) punch with the text clearly stating they induce sleep and forces them awake. His other punch literally woke someone up with them saying "I'm up!". It's a form of Sleep Inducement.
Pain Manipulation can be through other means such as intensifying pain. The description for the ability in Pain Manipulation suits this. Also he said that as he lays down there after he got punched, also saying that his "organs hurt"
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Pretty sure we don't give sleep manip to characters if they just knock someone out, don't see how this is any different
Minion was probably saying that cause he got kicked by someone who could incap him with a breath, and not because OP Caleb has the supernatural ability to inflict pain
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It was specifically described as a “NyQuil” Punch, which is something that puts you to sleep so it seems pretty clear cut.
The minion who said it was “different pain” wasn’t kicked he was slapped with a paper towel lol. That’s a pretty different kind of pain.
 
GeliumE said:
It isn't just knocking someone out, his abilities has names such as DayQuil (Day) and NyQuil (Night) punch with the text clearly stating they induce sleep and forces them awake. His other punch literally woke someone up with them saying "I'm up!". It's a form of Sleep Inducement.
Pain Manipulation can be through other means such as intensifying pain. The description for the ability in Pain Manipulation suits this. Also he said that as he lays down there after he got punched, also saying that his "organs hurt"
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Isn't that the nominal fallacy? What Caleb achieved with DayQuil and NyQuil could be replicated by any random 9-C punching a 10-B
We don't give Frieza pain manip cause he was giving "intensifying pain" to Vegeta, if OP Caleb slapped a 2-B with a paper towel, would they have the same reaction?
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Isn't that the nominal fallacy? What Caleb achieved with DayQuil and NyQuil could be replicated by any random 9-C punching a 10-B
We don't give Frieza pain manip cause he was giving "intensifying pain" to Vegeta, if OP Caleb slapped a 2-B with a paper towel, would they have the same reaction?
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I mean not really when he punched him he literally yelled “I’m up! I’m uuuuup!” Who the hell says that from getting punched awake? It’s rather clear the intent is to show that his punches have the effect described in their names and descriptions.
Yeah but he wasn’t just hurting the guy he literally inflicted a “new type” of pain onto him, that’s something more than just causing pain.
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Isn't that the nominal fallacy? What Caleb achieved with DayQuil and NyQuil could be replicated by any random 9-C punching a 10-B
We don't give Frieza pain manip cause he was giving "intensifying pain" to Vegeta, if OP Caleb slapped a 2-B with a paper towel, would they have the same reaction?
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I was more so referring to the text that accompanies the names since they're more like "author statements" describing their abilities and what each punch does. Okay let's say for example that was a 10-B Caleb that was punched there's 3 things:
1. Of course as you said a 9-C should normally knock out a 10-B due to inferior durability however the other punch that should've knocked him out (DayQuil) woke him up regardless of his durability
2. There are accompanied author statements in parentheses describing each punch and their abilities
3. Caleb is canonically composite so that being an inferior Caleb would make no sense.
And for Pain Manipulation, tell me how a paper towel and even tiny bits of water droplets don't count as intensifying pain... He dropped a paper towel on to the opponent without accompanying any punch and that still inflicted massive damage
 
Mind you, a paper towel just lying around in your house and bits of water droplets should obviously not cause any pain to anyone and he managed to do this completely separate from his body TWICE (with no accompanied punch) so he "magnified" pain to the level that it would do damage. That, with the "this is a different and new pain" statement from the minion should make it pretty straightforward Pain Manipulation.
 
Someone who's never experienced more than minor injuries would also call something that harmed his organs and ended up knocking him out "new pain"
GeliumE said:
And for Pain Manipulation, tell me how a paper towel and even tiny bits of water droplets don't count as intensifying pain... He dropped a paper towel on to the opponent without accompanying any punch and that still inflicted massive damage
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OP Protagonist was just stronger than the other Calebs, we even see that his breath could put them in intensifying pain
But Sleep Manip is valid yee
 
Adem_Warlock69 said:
Someone who's never experienced more than minor injuries would also call something that harmed his organs and ended up knocking him out "new pain"

OP Protagonist was just stronger than the other Calebs, we even see that his breath could put them in intensifying pain
But Sleep Manip is valid yee
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Yeah but he literally threw water and dropped a paper towel on someone and it caused them immense pain, it’s obvious he’s amplifying the pain he’s causing somehow.

Well his breath didn’t “cause intense pain” it just killed that last guy. I mean yeah he yelled but he was dying so.
 
Dalesean027 said:
here's a little something to spruce up the profile lol
vsbattles.fandom.com

Calebcity Blows up the toilet

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
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thank you, now we should have concrete attack potency (and durability, he survived the same exact explosion in this video)
also that means we need 2 calculations evaluated for the staff for his attack potency, durability, and lifting strength before we publish his profile
 
GeliumE said:
thank you, now we should have concrete attack potency (and durability, he survived the same exact explosion in this video)
also that means we need 2 calculations evaluated for the staff for his attack potency, durability, and lifting strength before we publish his profile
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Yeah should probably move the shark lifting calc into a Vs Wiki blog just to make it less cluttered.
 
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