Caine vs Yuki Terumi: Lol that hax

[Stillwinston]

Well here we go. I have to ask about this match and I've made it. Time to see if that Blazblue buff actually can be beaten here. I'd have loved to use Ragna but he's a vegetable and just sleeps there.

So Terumi up you go son.

Speed is equalised. Yuki Terumi is Susano'o at his peak, Caine is Post Cainite Caine. SBA otherwise

Caine: 0

Terumi: 0

Inconclusive: 0

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Caine_(World_of_Darkness)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yüki_Terumi

 

[Udlmaster]

I'm not sure what Terumi can do, so I'll wait to see what arguments are made for them.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Isnt Caine that guy that has High 1-C hax? How is this not a stomp?

 

[Udlmaster]

Yes, he does, but what can Terumi do, as he could have a win con.

 

[Stillwinston]

Well here's some stuff that Terumi can do to get the ball rolling, this was in base though but still.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2875471#20

 

[Theglassman12]

Terumi can mindhax beyond 2-A resistance, reactively evolve/negating other characters' resistances, erase someone and negate their resistance to EE, negate mid godly Regenerationn and multiple different immortalities, precognition/cosmic awareness to the level of infinite reality, passive seithr hax/presence concealment. And nearly every resistance he has is 2-A.

 

[Udlmaster]

Well, he has the Regen negation to stop Caine from Regenerating.

Caine's resistances does cover most of his stuff.

His evolution could help but can he stop Caine's Conceptual erasure?

 

[Theglassman12]

He did use it to adapt to the Embryo, which was passively creating Phenomena Intervention, which has conceptual Manipulation. And lol precognition/cosmic awareness could warn him ahead of time if Caine does that.

 

[Udlmaster]

Caine has his own version of Precog where he can see the infinite possible futures and choose which one he likes.

So, precog and Fate manip in one.

 

[Theglassman12]

Well Terumi's a type 4 Acausal being at this poimt so precognition and fate manipulation won't work, on top of the fact that he did defeat a clone of himself who has said precognition on that level so he's not new to that.

 

[Udlmaster]

Caine is also a type 4, and his precog and Fate etc. All work on Type 5 acausal beings.

 

[Theglassman12]

has it worked against someone who resists precognition even without the type 4 Acausal?

 

[Udlmaster]

Yes, Mages, Demons and Angels resist all their own hax.

 

[Theglassman12]

on what level of precognition have they resisted?

 

[Udlmaster]

What do you mean, "what level" as in power? How strong are they? Or what level of acausality?

 

[Theglassman12]

no as in, was the precognition like "they can see 10 seconds into the future, instinctively react to incoming danger," or what?

 

[Udlmaster]

There's multiple, some that control and see the fate of all things within the Tellurian, start to end, which is a beyond infinite time.

Some work for multiple years, others last for as long as the Mage wants and such.

 

[Theglassman12]

is there any actual statements that every character resist their own hax in lore or is that just game mechanics?

 

[Ionliosite]

Doesn't Caine has passive 11-D power null or something like that?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Cain has passive 11D power null unless something changed while i wasn't looking

Terumi literally cannot do anything

 

[Theglassman12]

so basically it's a stomp no matter what. Fan freaking tastic.