Bull vs Dragon - Yami Sukehiro vs Stella Vermillion

[Firephoenixearl]

You missed the point, he slices through, let's just say he erases some fire, it will just reform, you'll accomplish nothing basically. As for dodging, hardly. Katharterio salamandra can be moved around as much as she wants. It's not a single slice.

 

[SpookyShadow]

So she can deflect the slash or something?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She can dodge it.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If it slices through the fire, it's going straight for her to kill her.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She can just move outta the way. We already went over this.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

She can dodge after she just did that attack?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She can't?

 

[Schnee_One]

Wouldn't she just block the strike? Which kills her?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Idk if it's even visible lol. Nobody could see it coming in Black Clover and everybody was surprised, and they all have ESP.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's... pretty hard to block something that warps space to negate durability.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Wouldn't she just block the strike? Which kills her?

She has danger sense too. Not to the extent of ikki, but if it warned her about Mikoto's AZ sight looking at her, i doubt they wouldn't trigger when dimensional hax is about to cut her in half.

 

[00potato]

I might go with Yami, Precog will balance out the speed difference and Dimension slash will likely hit due to precog. If she blocks, she dies.

Forcefields let him take a few hits too, which is nice.

(All Blazers that aren't Ikki have the 6 times amps right?)

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah even Asta who himself has same shit (Precognition with Ki and ESP) couldn't see that attack coming when Yami sliced through Kotodama like butter so might be hard to sense that.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Idk if it's even visible lol. Nobody could see it coming in Black Clover and everybody was surprised, and they all have ESP.

This brings up a very good point. Asta has the same precog too, but couldn't detect it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I might go with Yami, Precog will balance out the speed difference and Dimension slash will likely hit due to precog. If she blocks, she dies.
Forcefields let him take a few hits too, which is nice.

(All Blazers that aren't Ikki have the 6 times amps right?)

Precog doesn't mean you will hit someone faster.

Stella can also take hits due to forcefield. But neither of them can't tank the other's killing move. Though i doubt Yami's force fields would do much due to the 6x AP amp.

(All of them have it, but not all of them have it to that extent. The more magic capacity the bigger the amp, for stella since she has tons, it's 6x, should be much less for normal blazers).

 

[SpookyShadow]

What tier the 6x amp makes her? It should be kinda considered in her profile since it makes her whole new tier

 

[Schnee_One]

It's kinda the one that makes her 7B.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

How is she faster? Speed is equal.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yes? So uh. She's 7-B from the very beginning, wouldn't call that really an amp

 

[00potato]

How is she faster? Speed is equal.

Amps.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

How is she faster? Speed is equal.

Amps.

Yami has amps too, though?

 

[00potato]

Stella's are about 6 times. That's a lotta speed. Does Yami's have a known amount.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes? So uh. She's 7-B from the very beginning, wouldn't call that really an amp

It is, but the thing is she had her Amp active when she did the feat.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I'm pretty confused

 

[Firephoenixearl]

We really don't know if amps are counted for that, but i'll make it all simpler for all of you. In this thread you can decide whether you want the 7-B to be with or without amp. It doesn't matter much so just decide and we'll have that as an "op rule". Since we can't tell whether it would be included in the 7-B or not.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I guess the debate would be more fun without "lol 6x amp", don't you think?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

But then I feel like Yami would stomp.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

As i said you decide.

I always like to let everyone decide on which assumption when there is no argument to be made for either or there are equal arguments for both.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Doesn't she have already a considerable AP advantage?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yami scales really well above a 13.55 Megatons feat, idk about Stella but as she has a + in her tier she should be around 50 megatons or higher

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She is about 54 or so megatons i think (2.3 x 10^17 joules).

 

[00potato]

The calc was probably with the amp, (blazers tend to always have it up in fights.) making this fair.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Sure, let's go with that then.

 

[SpookyShadow]

So around a 2x advantage (Because Yami is much stronger than Fana who did the 7-B feat quite easily)

 

[Ionliosite]

I should make Asta vs Ikki next

 

[SpookyShadow]

Extremely interesting match it would be of course. Totally not garbage

 

[00potato]

I should make Asta vs Ikki next </div> DO IT

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I should make Asta vs Ikki next </div>

That was my first idea, but I was worried about a skill stomp.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Anyways, no amps Stella is what we agree on?

 

[00potato]

I think we jus agreed on the calc being with the amps. So her speed amp still applies.