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Broly vs Sans 2.0 (One more)

Ricsi-viragosi said:
They al get summoned and absorbed in teh plan to exterminate saiyans.
That gif isn't a tenth impressive enough to say he dodges sans' danmaku. Especially since they can't even be blown away.
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Not all of them, once again, also wasn't it a video game movie ? do they count as Toei's ?

Except that Sans's number of attack in a single around (except the whole of bones that he can't actualy use here) doesn't really surpass the number of punches Broly dodged in that single gif.

and once again, Sans's danmaku isn't even enough to cover a hallway in attacks, because that's where his fight with Frisk take place.

You're trying to talk like Sans has some Touhou or hardcore japanese bullet game level of Danmaku but he doesn't and his range and AOE is far too short to be as much as an advantage as you're trying to make it out to be, His range and AOE are lower than a normal kamehameha and the number of attack is lower than the ki barrage Vegeta used against Freezer on namek, hell, it's probably less than Broly's own barrage when he powered up and threw ki blast from all over his body.

Let's not forget that Sans get tired after a few turns too, so he wouldn't be able to litteraly just constantly shoot and blast and Broly wouldn't be limited to one attack per turn and has enhanced senses .

Also Sans is weak against murder intention and Broly is one of the most bloodthirsty character in the dragon ball movies.
 
How does that remotly matter? They were made by them.

Firstly, heck yes it does. Secondly, his attack consists of several meters tall bones that broly can't blow away and one-shot.

What do you mean it isn't enough? You get thrown all around the place, and they in no way slow down after a few meters.

His danmaku has a half meter gap to pass in for souls, and broly can't exactly control his soul to move like that. And the aore is absolutly larger than a normal kamehameha. And what does that matter? Broly never once dodged any proper danmaku, and plain tanks attacks.

What? A character tha can one-shot sans? Well he obviously can't do anything about that.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
How does that remotly matter? They were made by them.
Firstly, heck yes it does. Secondly, his attack consists of several meters tall bones that broly can't blow away and one-shot.

What do you mean it isn't enough? You get thrown all around the place, and they in no way slow down after a few meters.

His danmaku has a half meter gap to pass in for souls, and broly can't exactly control his soul to move like that. And the aore is absolutly larger than a normal kamehameha. And what does that matter? Broly never once dodged any proper danmaku, and plain tanks attacks.

What? A character tha can one-shot sans? Well he obviously can't do anything about that.
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The anime was also made by them yet it ignore most movies.

Once again, those bones can't even cover a full hallway and if Broly attempt to blow them away, it actualy suck for Sans since the attack will kill him given that Broly's attack have an AOE way beyond what Sans was shown to dodge even if we say that it wouldn't affect his attacks themself.

It mean what it mean, it mean they can't cover a hallway, and even then, the fight take place in less than half of the hallway and yes they don't slow down after a few meter, they downright dissapear.

Your soul is linked to your body, you move your body, the soul move with you, as seen as when Undyne chass you.

a Normal kamehameha would blow away a hallway, it wouldn't leave enough place to dodge within said hallway, unlike even Sans's best attack.

once again, my gif prove that Broly doesn't just stand around tanking attack and once again, Sans's danmaku and AOE are far from being good enough to mean anything here

a character that Sans can't dodge either, isn't limited by the turn systeme and who can kill him through intention alone since we saw DB character like Beerus paralyse people with their mere killing intent, Sans would probably get killed by Broly's aura alone here.
 
Once again, how does this remotly matter?

Exept all the times his aoe didn't cover that area. And he can just teleport away, and broly dies to the bones.

Can you even spell game mechanics. There are attacks where they go off screen.

Yes, but broly doesn't know that the heart needs to be moved away, lacks the skill to move it around specificly enough, and he tanks attacks.

Not a normal one goku uses, no.

And mine proves the opposite, this is the second movie broly.

Yeah, you make a crt for passive bloodlust aura and then we talk. Especially since it's not the emotion itself damaging monsters. And yes he can, in the movie he barely uses dozen meter aoe, and start with a physical tackle. And this is the second movie.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Once again, how does this remotly matter?
Exept all the times his aoe didn't cover that area. And he can just teleport away, and broly dies to the bones.

Can you even spell game mechanics. There are attacks where they go off screen.

Yes, but broly doesn't know that the heart needs to be moved away, lacks the skill to move it around specificly enough, and he tanks attacks.

Not a normal one goku uses, no.

And mine proves the opposite, this is the second movie broly.

Yeah, you make a crt for passive bloodlust aura and then we talk. Especially since it's not the emotion itself damaging monsters. And yes he can, in the movie he barely uses dozen meter aoe, and start with a physical tackle. And this is the second movie.
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That's the point, his AOE can't cover that and his range is way too low to compensate the low ammount of AOE and projectile.

Sans never used his teleportation in combat unless you interpret his dodging as teleportation, which is barely enough to get out of range of a single knife swipe, nothing more and the bones wouldn't kill Broly, they'd just do damage through soul poisoning, remember that Sans's durability negation isn't absolute and he can't actualy one shot souls and if Broly actualy feel hurt, he'll just blow away the whole area, killing Sans way before the poison can down him.

Game Mechanics are observable facts and actualy are equivalent to laws of physics in undertale, the attacks dissapear once they leave the screen.

Once again, You don't need to move the heart, just move your body, the soul move with it, Broly would just dodge normaly and if anything, he'd over do his dodge because he wouldn't know his soul is smaller than his full body, without forgetting that unlike Frisk, Broly wouldn't be as limited for his dodges.

no, yours prove that even after a 10 years long coma, Broly just attack rather than just stand there.

No need for the passive bloodlust aura, i mean his normal ki aura, that's how they are able to sense 'evil' and stuff like that in someone, Broly's bloodlust is just as much of a part of his ki as his general evil is.

Dozen metter AOE is a really low lowball here and it's still beyond what Sans was shown to barely dodge and is beyond Sans's own range.
 
This was already finished.

I also wrote an answer, but my pc stopped working. Regardless, no, broly does get one shot due to lacking resistance to souldestruction.

No, sans constantly uses his teleportation powers in the fight, and he can use it casually throughout the game.

No, broly won't dodge, thia is from the second movie, where he tanks and goes melee.

No, his aura didn't crush the children that were there.

No, sans' attacks strech beyond the screen several times.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
This was already finished.
I also wrote an answer, but my pc stopped working. Regardless, no, broly does get one shot due to lacking resistance to souldestruction.

No, sans constantly uses his teleportation powers in the fight, and he can use it casually throughout the game.

No, broly won't dodge, thia is from the second movie, where he tanks and goes melee.

No, his aura didn't crush the children that were there.

No, sans' attacks strech beyond the screen several times.
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Except Sans doesn't have soul destruction, he has soul poison and negating durability to an extent through soul magic and even if we interpreted it as Soul destruction, Sans need repeated and long contact with his attack for it to work.

So his teleportation allows him to avoid a single knife swipe, not gonna help here.

He canonicaly use 'shortcuts' (which are implied to be litteral fast travel) to move around, not teleportation.

Second Movie Broly would dodge just as much as first movie Broly, as nothing in the OP indicate Broly would be as mentaly shaken as he was after just waking up from his coma, anyway Broly in the second movie tend to answer to ki blast and other attack with his own huge AOE attacks, like he did against the Family Kamehameha, he would react the same to Sans's ranged attack so it doesn't work out well for Sans if you really want to insist Broly would act like that under any circumstance after the first movie.

He litteraly had no aura in that scene and those children didn't have a weakness against Evil or killing intention.

They don't stretch beyond where we see them and they don't stretch farther than a small bit of a hallway, as it is where the entier fight take place.
 
What..? Every monster ever has soul destruction. Make a crt if you disagree. And he nedded continous connection with frisk because their soul can take a beating. Broly's soul can at be assumed at 8-C, since that's the baseline for human souls.

No, it allows him to travel all around the underground, teleports his enemies around and towards his atfacks with relative ease, and teleports his own attacks ontu them.

Canonically? What are you on about, he visibly teleports you on scree around, he litirally teleports a few meters to the size before annoying dogs door and... just, c'mon.

No he wouldn't. He is in the same mental state by sba. And saying that he reacts to bones sprouting from the ground like he did to a massive energy beam is just...

Wrong. When he throws you to the side they do, as do ghaster blasters condtantly.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
What..? Every monster ever has soul destruction. Make a crt if you disagree. And he nedded continous connection with frisk because their soul can take a beating. Broly's soul can at be assumed at 8-C, since that's the baseline for human souls.
No, it allows him to travel all around the underground, teleports his enemies around and towards his atfacks with relative ease, and teleports his own attacks ontu them.

Canonically? What are you on about, he visibly teleports you on scree around, he litirally teleports a few meters to the size before annoying dogs door and... just, c'mon.

No he wouldn't. He is in the same mental state by sba. And saying that he reacts to bones sprouting from the ground like he did to a massive energy beam is just...

Wrong. When he throws you to the side they do, as do ghaster blasters condtantly.
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Nope, they don't, look at Sans's page, it's listed nowhere on his page, you're the one who need to make a CRT if you think he has it.

Except Broly isn't human and in undertale, the baseline for a Soul is 20 Hp so a baseline human soul would have 20 HP.

Nope, he travel using shortcuts and him moving his ennemies around is his gravity manipulation and yes he can teleport his attack a bit but only to a previous point in their pattern, which would be useless since Broly would have dodged far away from the pattern to begin with, since DB characters tend to overdo their dodges and it's not Sans's opening move either.

He doesn't, he take you through a shortcute to grillby's with a fade to black, that's what is said in the game itself and he probably did the same for the dog door and like how you added 'and...' before the 'just c'mon' , as if there was more exemple.

Yes, he would, and his default mental state is the one in the first movie, his second movie mental state is due to very specific condition that can't be replicated here.

nothing indicate the bones sprout from the ground and Broly react that way to anything thrown at him, there is no reason to assume he would react different.

Once they dissapear from the screen, they dissapear totaly, otherwise, we'd see bones after the fight is finished and we don't and even if we say they stretch, well, big whoop, it upgrade their range from 10 meter to 15, awesome, still not enough to mean anyway.

Ghaster Blasters here are meaningless and would be more of a death sentence for Sans since they are actualy tangible (Papyrus has one under a drap in his room) and would make Broly immediatly throw his own blast, that have way better range and AOE, too much for Sans to dodge.
 
It damages the soul...

Because that makes his soul is more durable? And an average 20 Hp would be depleted in 0.5 seconds without counting karma.

No... He litirally, physically teleports you in the never ending turn if you try to move before he falls asleep. Also, crt boyo "During battle, Sans will often teleport his opponent, himself, and his attacks, not only moving himself out of harms way, but moving his foe into the path of a new attack".

No, he says "are you following me" by the dog door. But do make a crt to remove teleportation.

No. It's his most recent version.

They litirally come from underground. And no he hasn't, he rarely went for extremly large aoe as a response for attacks.

Oh yeah, not on screen? They cease existing. Remeber when sans went out of the screen? Nonexistent physioligy confirmed. And broly every time went in for a physical tackle, so he doesn't even need the range.

No they are not tangible. Papyrus also has bones that are tangible. Regardless, them being tangible would make them 7-C.
 
and ? by that logic Broly damage someone's body so he can insta kill everyone, it doesn't work.

Karma is just soul poison, as said on his page, it doesn't make his attack any more powerfull and 20 HP actualy last you pretty long, most run that beat Sans lose less than 10 HP and there are no damage run, given that Broly is way less limited than Frisk was, those 20 Hp will go a long way.

The never ending turn is him using his gravity manipulation to move the box back.

so once again, you're interpreting his dodge as teleportation, so once again, teleporting yourself enough to dodge a single knife swipe won't help.

'teleporting into the path of a new attack' so he can't teleport someone directly on his attack, so once again, you were wrong.

him saying 'are you following me' doesn't prove you point. there is no reason to remove teleportation, fast travel is a form of teleportation and it's what his 'shortcuts' are implied to be.

His 'most recent version' has the same mental as in the first movie, unless he is under the exact same condition as he was when he woke up from his coma, he will act that way.

No, they don't, they come from the bottom of the attack box, is Sans just flying in the middle of nothing during the fight now ?

Except that Sans isn't a magical attack and explicitly turn into dust as he leave the screen.

Yeah, everytime...except those time he used ki blast from far away, i forgot he destroyed that planete by tackling it, silly me.

Yes, they are tangible, unless Papyrus had an intangibility negating drap.

Except the bones are explicitly moved by the monster's magic

No, it wouldn't, there would be no reason for that.
 
If I haven't voted/haven't been counted, Broly FRA.
 
By ingame logic, wouldn't Broly just have huge LV numbers hence giant HP, so he basically tanks everything sans throws at him? Also, Broly FRA
 
Zark2099 said:
By ingame logic, wouldn't Broly just have huge LV numbers hence giant HP, so he basically tanks everything sans throws at him? Also, Broly FRA
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It's true that it's mention in game that monsters in undertale have a harder time hurting someone the more they are detached from others and the less they care about those around them and their suffering, which is the in univers explaination for you gaining HP as you kill, just like they have a harder time tanking attacks the more bloodthirsty and detached their opponent is; which is the in-univers explaination for the additional damage as you level up, since Sans made clear that LV only mesure how little you care and how ready you are to hurt others.
 
Dragomer said:
It's true that it's mention in game that monsters in undertale have a harder time hurting someone the more they are detached from others
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...So did you agree or disagree with me? Asking for clarity
 
Zark2099 said:
Dragomer said:
It's true that it's mention in game that monsters in undertale have a harder time hurting someone the more they are detached from others
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...So did you agree or disagree with me? Asking for clarity
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I'm agreeing, HP is just how hard it is for monsters to hurt you, the more evil and blood thirsty you are, the harder it is for them, thus more HP and Broly is just the most bloodthirsty DB bad guy if not the most evil (Freezer is probably the most evil), so your comment make sense.
 
Yeah, no, that is not accepted at all.

Hp to begin with isn't acepted as canon, you make a crt and get it accepted, but I am not counting that.
 
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