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It should be kept in mind that cases of moving along surfaces through sheer momentum or by damaging the walls should not be classified as this ability as they are both simply common consequences of Superhuman Speed and Superhuman strength respectively rather than being distinct powers on their own.
Disagree. That's just based on pure speedThe walls are not damaged, as you can see in the scan
he didn’t appear to have any momentum buildup, as he goes from the scene of him kicking saitama through the previous pillar directly to this.
this is the page directly before, he wasn’t running or anything before he began climbing the wall
What? Did you read what I sent?Disagree. That's just based on pure speed
We see a large impact from the crater where he kicked Saitama indicating that he propelled himself upwards.No, no momentum.
The anime depiction makes it clear that he broke through that pillar and just proceeded to run up the next one without needing any upwards momentum.We see a large impact from the crater where he kicked Saitama indicating that he propelled himself upwards.
Aren't all Surface Scaling stuff done all from speed though?Disagree. That's just based on pure speed
Spiderman.Aren't all Surface Scaling stuff done all from speed though?
Surface Scaling is for characters who can use their speed to climb on surfaces lol.
Ninjas in NarutoAren't all Surface Scaling stuff done all from speed though?
Surface Scaling is for characters who can use their speed to climb on surfaces lol.
Well yes he’s dashing, but the dash began when he was already on the wall of another pillarIt's Boros bro, he can demonstrably go from a standstill to like mach 10 morbillion or some shit. It's sheer momentum.
there's even a dash sfx
You can tho, hell you don't even need to be that fast. Low mach should suffice.No matter how fast you are, you can’t just go from standing still on a wall to being able to run to the top without any momentum
If you’re admitting that he can run on the wall using the wall and nothing but the wall….then why wouldn’t surface scaling apply to him?You can tho, hell you don't even need to be that fast. Low mach should suffice.
And what do you mean? He dashed, manga even has a sfx indicating it meaning he hit the wall, kicked off it, and that's that. And it ain't like gravity is an issue given he's ya know, literally millions of times faster than 9.81mps^2, so it ain't like he would've started falling before doing literally anything.
Because we don't give it via speed or strength?If you’re admitting that he can run on the wall using the wall and nothing but the wall….then why wouldn’t surface scaling apply to him?
There was quite literally nothing for him to gain momentum or climb off of except the wall itself.Because we don't give it via speed or strength?
The crater?There was quite literally nothing for him to gain momentum or climb off of except the wall itself.
Yeah, he used the wall itself to gain momentum, dude dashed off it because he's like 1000000x faster than gravity so he had enough time to just kick off it.There was quite literally nothing for him to gain momentum or climb off of except the wall itself.
Which was in the previous pillar, the one he already broke.The crater?
If he can use the wall to climb up the wall then he’s literally scaling the surface.Yeah, he used the wall itself to gain momentum.
And? That's still using speed/strength to scale something. It could be the floor, the wall, it doesn't matter, he's just so fast/strong, he can go up shit at a 90 degree angle.
Is it done through momentum/strength? Yes? Ok then it's a strength/speed feat, not via a special ability that enables him to scale surfaces like Spiderman or whatever. This would be like giving Neo from the Matrix or Mario surface scaling because they're fast enough to run up/along walls.f he can use the wall to climb up the wall then he’s literally scaling the surface.
You are saying you can put Boros on a wall, he can climb this wall, go up and down however much he wants, but he doesn’t have surface scaling?
I mean it was directly going sideways, that's like saying falling from the top of a building would give you enough horizontal speed to run like 50 times as fast. He had no vertical momentum is the point.not withstanding he already had enough momentum to ******* smash saitama through like tier 6 pillars.
Surface Scaling is the ability to move along walls, ceilings and similar surfaces without the risk of falling from gravity. This could involve a variety of different methods ranging from creating attraction between a part of one’s body and the surface to making use of spiked footwork. What’s important is that the user be granted a free range of motion across all conventional walls and ceilings without needing to significantly alter the wall or ceiling itself or rely on specific features present on them that wouldn’t be found in smooth surfaces.No offense but you're kinda being annoying now, you understand how he did it, you know we don't give it for that (as it says on the page itself), if you don't like it make a CRT to change the page itself, because we ain't giving it to him based off current standards.
No, but it'd be like saying a rel/tier 6 kick has a fuckton of momentum behind it and if the dude changed his trajectory with a dash or something, well, who knows.mean it was directly going sideways, that's like saying falling from the top of a building would give you enough horizontal speed to run like 50 times as fast. He had no vertical momentum is the point.
And you just contradicted yourself. Let's downgrade Boros to Below Human speed because apparently him running doesn't have momentum behind it.I am saying that it was not done through strength or speed, it was literally just him running on the wall with no momentum or anything.
The fact you still don't get it is a you issue. I can't explain it any further beyond just no.He did not break the wall, and he did not get a running start up a ramp to the wall or anything, he literally landed directly on the wall and was able to run upwards using the wall's surface. That's just surface scaling 101.
this gif is all kinds of raw
he slammed through the first pillar, the one he dashed off of was a different one that he didn't climb via breaking itWe don't give it for strength/speed. Boros being a Rel/Tier 6 who slammed into a pillar, and then dashed off it, changing his momentum upward and proceeding to repeatedly kick off it upward as evidenced by the very panel itself, untill they hit the outer ship, which they did with so much force/momentum, they ripped a hole through it.
No because you're arguing it's surface scaling, it can't be both, and given you are now continuing to argue it.on another note, could we just say that boros has acrobatics instead?
Acrobatics is defined as the technique of performing maneuvers of balance, dexterity, agility, and coordination. In fiction, the levels of acrobatics can vary between simply performing extraordinary human movements to defiance of the laws of gravity and movement.
at the very least, this should be very obvious, right?
- Self-Momentum: The character controls their own movements, being capable of accelerating and decelerating quickly with no issues, by physical means, such as pushing against a surface or grabbing an object mid-air, in order to change one's direction.
- Surface Running: By stepping on any solid (or even liquid) surface and continuing to move, the user is capable of moving on walls, ceilings, and other irregular surfaces. Unlike Surface Scaling, a user needs to keep their speed in order to keep moving across the surface, falling back once they lose momentum.
Yeah, I know, you only said that 4 times, which tbh, I thought it would've been more ngl.he slammed through the first pillar, the one he dashed off of was a different one that he didn't climb via breaking it
I was very clearly suggesting that it could be acrobatics instead of surface scaling, that much is clear when you read what I posted.No because you're arguing it's surface scaling, it can't be both, and given you are now continuing to argue it.
I didn't feel the need to have to spell this out but I guess I'm just gonna make this more clearAnd yet you're continuing to argue it's surface scaling
Yeah, i agree with thatdone
and I was just asking if you agreed with acrobatics or not