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It's good that most of the OPM fanbase agrees that: Boros > Tatsumaki, they have common sense
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I don't agree with that, I believe he was merged because he lost marbles and ended up with a single head, but the muscles were still merged into a single body.remember, the Melz that damaged bang was when he was one-headed, meaning it was the weakest he had been minus the flying head and split Melz
Why is that?melzargard completely manhandles Psyrochi which is kinda like
Actually, today I thought of a way to scale Geryuganshoop way way higher than he is, although it won't be accepted here, but it's fun for offsite debating. Btw this scaling would somewhat suggest Armored Boros is above full power Tatsumaki, as he should. I'll explain it tomorrow.It probably was just an unrealistic dream after all for geryu being above tats.
Well combined Melz should probably be at least somewhat relative to GeryuganshoopWhy is that?
The scaling I was talking about:Well combined Melz should probably be at least somewhat relative to Geryuganshoop
Good analysisThe scaling I was talking about:
When people use Murata's statements, they tend to fail to realize that the manga has changed what Murata thought of character's power, almost entirely. For example, when he talks about GS being relative to Orochi, that GS is actually PS in the manga (which wasn't conceived at that point in time). That way, GS turned to be manga's Multi Cell Sperm and PS turned to be manga's GS. We can further prove this by how casual GS was created (same as MCS) and how PS said a very similar dialogue to that of webcomic GS, and served the purpose of making Garou evolve further, like in the webcomic. So, Murata was actually equating Orochi's power to Platinum Sperm.
Then the following question is presented: Is the Orochi that Murata talks about in his interviews actually the same Orochi that appears later in the manga? The answer is a blatant NO. For starters, Murata reveals that the original plan was Orochi getting that teamed by the S class and then finished by Tatsumaki. This would make the S class scale to Orochi's dragons. This is actually Jet Psyrochi, which was defeated by the combined efforts of the heroes and later on finished by Tats.
But the Orochi that Murata talks about in his interviews is a different Orochi than the one he said was "the original plan". Murata is talking about a much more powerful Orochi. He stated that it would be no problem for him to take several punches from Saitama. This is contradicted by Saitama fighting Orochi and easily ripping his limbs several times (both in the canon and pre-redraw versions) and then effortlessly one shoting him. Murata also states that Orochi is included to get Tatsumaki injured so that Psykos damaging her seems more realistic. You're probably thinking that this is actually Psykorochi fusion, that is able to injure Tatsumaki. But no, Murata is talking about an even stronger Orochi. He also says, when talking about 3 Boros' generals vs Orochi, that "they'd have a very minimal chance to beat him if they plan it properly, after all, it is still unsure if Tatsumaki can beat Orochi". This has massive implications because Murata is wondering whether or not full power Tatsumaki can beat the version of Orochi he has in mind, so this Orochi might actually be stronger than her. We see that Tatsumaki easily one shots Psykorochi while not at full power (she exerted much more power against Saitama), so he wasn't talking about Psykorochi at all.
So, what does this mean for Geryuganshoop?: The 3 generals < Muarta's view of Orochi (who might be stronger than Tatsumaki). Them having a minimal chance of winning means that, while they don't fully scale to him, they must be able to damage him in some form or another. Let's look at how the generals scale in the verse. Although Groribas is said to be the top combatant, Melz and Geryuganshoop were confident that they could beat someone who one shot him, so I wouldn't say he is that strong. Then, Combined Melzalgard scales below AB Asleep Monster Garou; this is due to the fact that AB Bang sustained injuries just from deflecting Garou's blows (while using Heart Exploding Release Fist), while he easily defelcted Combined Melz's attack in base. So, the only one who has a chance at damaging this Orochi would be Geryuganshoop, while Melz and Groribas would be decoys or distractions, Melz using his marbles, splitting and regenerating, and Groribas using his acid.
It actually makes sense that he is this powerful because Murata has made a couple of statements like: "Geryuganshoop is the greatest psychic in the universe after all. That's what I think", "so at the time I drew the Geryuganshoop’s pebble throwing, I wanted him to be more powerful than her in some way". Assuming he downscales from full power Tatsumaki, he could very well be stronger than Psykorchi.
thank youGood analysis
This could be redundant but there’s another reason why Boros narratively and logically should be able to beat Tatsumaki easilyWe just need to see the pattern that follows when Saitama goes to fight some monster...
When Genos fought Mosquito Girl, Saitama interrupted the fight and defeated her just before she dealt the final blow to Genos/he self-destructed to kill her;
When the house of evolution kidnapping team came Genos took the second strongest guy on the team, the gorilla, while Saitama took the strongest the lion... When the Gorilla was defeated by Genos, he still believed that he would not be strong enough to fight the lion.
When Genos fights Carnage Kabuto, he is casually defeated, forcing Saitama to intervene and defeat Kabuto.
Saitama had to deal with the meteor because neither Bang, Genos or Bofoi were able to do anything.
During the Deep Sea King arc, Saitama was only forced to do something because all the other heroes had previously been defeated.
And when Boros attacks Earth, Tatsumaki neutralizes the ship, while Saitama fights Boros
On every occasion that Saitama struggles with some threat there is never someone strong enough close enough to deal with the problem.
When the invasion began Blast wasn't there to deal with the threat and that's why the script put Saitama in that meeting, because he was the only one capable of dealing with Boros around.
why?Also the prophecy alone could literally only apply to Blast or Saitama
Well Saitama because yknow, and also the guidebook statement saying they're the 2 who fulfill the prophecywhy?
Blast bcs he started his hunt for God 20 years ago. The same timeframe as when Boros received the news of his prophecy of "the strongest"why?
Ew a MB match not using the ftl rating
Because murata is a goofy ass unreliable sourceDoesn’t murata talk all the time on Twitter why can’t someone just ask if CSRC can destroy the planet and end this lowball once and for all
bruh doesn’t this site use multiple of his statements and how is he unreliable he’s literally the 2nd highest in command besides ONE himselfBecause murata is a goofy ass unreliable source
Like you have to actually not read the manga to say boros isn’t many many times ftlAll these Boros downplayers that just do it for the sake of hating him are disgusting. When I have free time I'll do a whole thread making Boros justice in each of his forms, AP and speed. It will be the greatest article ever written on this community.
We’re gonna have to review it all here beforehand thoughAll these Boros downplayers that just do it for the sake of hating him are disgusting. When I have free time I'll do a whole thread making Boros justice in each of his forms, AP and speed. It will be the greatest article ever written on this community.
I haven't really put the pieces together yet for a more direct proof of this, but here's some stuff that would probably be notable for any future attempts at higher released Boros speed scaling
it's not a crt yet so don't bug me about it
Boros is blatantly moving at pretty much the same speed as Saitama using a normal amount of effort
even stated as having rivaling abilities and putting saitama on the defensive
which yeah, isn't really true, but it should at least mean that Saitama's typical speed and power should be relative to Boros, considering that Boros is already rivaling the normal punch AP, and during the fight we do see saitama constantly avoiding and blocking Boros' attacks, so speed wise, moving at the same speeds as him here definitely means something
the statement about average joe being unable to perceive it still means nothing at all though
Post MA arc Flashy recently had to struggle to outpace this casual saitama
not to say Boros would blitz him like this, given he was off guard there, but the first normal punch that Saitama threw at flashy left him unable to counterattack in time too, which could mean something, or could mean nothing for Boros, idk.
this normal/casual saitama is kind of blatantly and consistently flashy flash or faster level though in terms of speed, considering this stuff:
and it's also inconsistent that he would always start battles by moving as fast as whoever's attacking him and just being way slower or faster randomly
considering that he also was blatantly outsped by garou sometimes, when there was no real reason for him to be out sped on purpose.
this is all cool stuff for Boros.
well that is kinda irrelevant since it was late in the fight
Boros was trading hands with semi casual Saitama meanwhile saitama can 1hand slap away wing garou punches not even trying
No it’s boros scaling bruh not irrelevant the fact it was such a faster form of garou just means boros scales to even faster speedwell that is kinda irrelevant since it was late in the fight