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so the raw has this section:
光よりも速く Faster than light
光よりも速く Faster than light
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It was rejected by some because Boros wasn't moving at that speed, but rather kicked Saitama at that speed. However I've seen some bring up that you have to be around that level of speed in order to pull off a feat like that. So I removed it due to uncertainty.We agreed that was good to keep pretty unanimously last thread, especially because it lines up with paneling in the manga. Saitama is on earth BOOM Saitama is on the moon.
That sounds legit, but would it be safe to get a knoweldgeable calc guy to answer that? I think Usklaverei was the one made that point, so I guess wait for them to come here.Oh yeah. I'd have to look at the specifics of the aura quote, but it's simplest just to scale Boros to relativistic+. Is it possible he wasn't moving at that speed, sure, there are ways he could accelerate Saitama to relativistic+ speeds without moving that fast himself. Would it make sense for him to be moving around that speed before moving Saitama at that speed? Yes. And since this is the simpler and more straightforward situation, I prefer it knowing what I know.
Huh... Considering we put Murata statements at "Possibly", it could be at least Rel+, possibly SOLSo as for Boros, he uses his energy to propel himself in MB, the same energy he covered Saitama with and kicked him to the moon after with. Not to mention he said he was holding back/not going all out until Saitama got back. Rel+ should scale at the very least.
And he should be WAY faster than Flashy Flashy who even recently with full speed doesn't impress Saitama at all.
Blast obviously scales. He zipped behind him before Flashy Flash could even see.
Also Murata apparently said Boros' kick was actually light speed. With the speed of light from Earth to the moon as the example. The rel+ one is explaining why Saitama's clothes didn't burn, so it might not even be fully true to the speed.
This is false, nothing in your links states that Boros's energy can move things its wrapped in at near SOL, I don't even know how you came to this conclusion, all it said was that his energy can reduce friction.Ok so MB's new speed is: At least Relativistic+ (Faster than before. Used his latent energy to generate an aura around himself and others that can move them at near lightspeed. He also implied he held back while performing this feat)
Kicking someone and sending them flying at X speed doesn't translate into your combat speed, unless you intercept the target while it's still at that speed.possibly Speed Of Light (Murata claims that Boros kicked Saitama at the speed of light rather than near lightspeed) or FTL (Surprised Saitama with his speed)
This is false, nothing in your links states that Boros's energy can move things its wrapped in at near SOL, I don't even know how you came to this conclusion, all it said was that his energy can reduce friction.
And where he said he held back, well, he didn't, you took it out of context, he said that Saitama makes him go all out, doesn't mean he held back when he kicked Saitama to the Moon.
Kicking someone and sending that at X speed doesn't translate into your combat speed, unless you intercept the target while it's still at that speed.
So as for Boros, he uses his energy to propel himself in MB, the same energy he covered Saitama with and kicked him to the moon after with. Not to mention he said he was holding back/not going all out until Saitama got back. Rel+ should scale at the very least.
Where does he say that? And where does he say that the energy moves things at SOL? Quote.You seem to misunderstand, it says that Murata claims the energy around Boros is SOL, and not Rel+.
Dude, how many times do I have to request a quote before you deliver it? I looked at all the links you sent so far and didn't see anything.Have you seen the link?
So the tweet says Boros sent Saitama to the moon at around SOL, how does that translate to Boros's Speed?
Whats your point? Explain to me how does the tweet make Boros near Light Speed.You understand Japanese? Because if not, then we will have to go with the translation.
Thats the point, for Boros to be the speed of the target he sends flying he needs to intercept it midflight.I’m almost 100% that sending someone flying at SoL/near SoL doesn’y mean you’re moving that fast yourself, you’re just hitting someone hard enough for them to get launched that fast.
Boros covered Saitama in the same aura that he move with, which is, SOLThats the point, for Boros to be the speed of the target he sends flying he needs to intercept it midflight.
The Moon kick doesn't give Boros or anyone the speed rating.
We have been over this already, there's no indication Boros's aura moves things at SOL, you haven't provided any, no one did because it's nonexistent. It just reduces friction.Boros covered Saitama in the same aura that he move with, which is, SOL
The scan from OTHER ONEBUKURO, which is what Emirp sumitpo referenced in their post, states that Boros eliminates friction by kicking the target at relativistic speed. Aside from that, the speed of light stuff is invalid.We have been over this already, there's no indication Boros's aura moves things at SOL, you haven't provided any, no one did because it's nonexistent. It just reduces friction.
So stop with that argument.
Ok, thx for clearing that up, I'll probably remove sol laterThe scan from OTHER ONEBUKURO, which is what Emirp sumitpo referenced in their post, states that Boros eliminates friction by kicking the target at relativistic speed. Aside from that, the speed of light stuff is invalid.
サイタマ、ボロスに蹴られてだいたいこのくらいのスピードで飛んでってた気がする。。
"I think [Saitama] was kicked by Boros and flew away at about this speed."
Along with the fact that Boros kicking him at lightspeed is contradicted by the OTHER ONEBUKURO, which was pointed out by @Fubuki_hell_, he also said he thought that Boros kicked him at about the speed of light. If anything, this is more supporting evidence for Relativistic(+) Boros.
Except the translated statement that mentions only friction and not the energy that moves things at SOL. Also, the burden of proof is on you, I don't have to prove that Boros's energy doesn't move things at SOL, you have to prove it does.You have no proof that it "just reduces friction"
How so, explain how you got Rel+ Boros.If anything, this is more supporting evidence for Relativistic(+) Boros.
Idc, I am here to disprove the Rel+ scaling based on current claims.All I want to know is how fast you think boros is, and why?
the scan that states that boros kicked saitama to the moon at "near light speed".How so, explain how you got Rel+ Boros.