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I'll get Saitama out of the way first because he is quicker.
New speed rating: At least Relativistic+ (Much faster than the likes of Flashy Flash), possibly FTL or higher (Intercepted Geryuganshoop's pitches at this speed)
His lifting strength should be upgraded to Class P as he should be stronger than the likes of Tatsumaki.
Now onto Boros.
First with the upgrade: Boros' CSRC has been recalced to be be much higher result, as the first calc assumes the CSRC to be a generic explosion. But we know that Boros attacks are all through melting of sorts, and the CSRC is just a bigger version of that. Full discussion for the CSRC calc is here. With the new calc, the CSRC now sits at 1.586 to 13.27 exatons. Not quite a big upgrade as many of us had hoped for (R.I.P Moon level OPM), but at least we got far higher into High 6-A, Of course Saitama should upscale from this, as he pretty much just deflected the attack with ease.
Boros's base is also getting upgraded to Low 6-B+, via upscaling from the new calc for the meteo, due to being an above-dragon, and should be more powerful thanthe meteor, which is a dragon level threat.
Now with the downgrade, Boros physicals for his released and Meteoric Burst state are getting downgraded to 6-B. This is due to the fact that he was previously High 6-A because his ship tanked Saitama's moon jump. However this was disproven in this thread due to the fact that the ship does not absorb the full impact of Saitama's moon jump, and that the energy had likely dispersed by then. This was calced by Usklaverei in the main OPM thread to be Low 7-B, which as we know, Boros is much higher than that.
Speed is is being changed to At least Massively Hypersonic, possibly Relativistic via upscaling from Geryu. Rel+ for MB boros is getting removed as the statement where it comes from isn't about him moving at near-lightspeed, but him kicking Saitama at near lightspeed. However, some people in the main OPM thread have brought up that to accomplish a feat like that, you have to move at a similar speed to it. I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff so it should be left to the calc guys who are actually knowledgeable on this stuff.
One could argue that MB boros is faster than Flashy Flash as he surprised Saitama with his speed while Flash didn't. But I'm not too sure about this.
I've seen people bring that up, but if ONE wanted a specific form of Boros to be an Above-Dragon, he would've done so, such examples where he did this was the ninja duo, where in their human forms, they were only threat level demon, but became threat level dragon when monsterfied. Same goes with phoenix man. We also put all of Orochi's form at Above-Dragon level, so I don't see any reason why Boros would be any different.
Shouldn't Boros be High 6-A via surviving Saitama's serious punch for a while?
Boros was practically on his death bed and on the verge of death after getting smacked by that, plus the serious punch didn't even hit him directly so it seems more like immortality type 2 rather than durability. So no
But what about scaling to Awakened Garou?
lmao what the heck is a woke garou, is that some kinda pasta or something?
Seriously tho, for starters, he hasn't appeared in the manga yet, so we can't scale Boros to him. And while there are statements from Murata that are backed up by ONE that AG and Boros do scale to one another, the statement came from a long time ago and there's a chance it might not hold up. While I doubt Garou will display a feat that is higher than a 100 petatons, there's a chance he might perform a tier 5 feat, destroying any chances the 2 might scale.
So until awakened Garou appears in the manga, we shouldn't be discussing about whether the 2 should scale or not, as it'll likely get into a lot of speculating. If the 2 do end up scaling however, then I will make a CRT about that, but until then. We should ignore trying to scale the 2.
Fun Fact. I was originally going to wait until AG came out so I could see whether the 2 should scale or not, but considering that likely happens in a few months, and the wait might end up not being worth it, I said screw it and decided to skip waiting and just go ahead with this CRT, and make Boros = Garou a seperate CRT.
The revised Boros profile can be seen here.
One-Shot Man
Because Geryuganshoop near lightspeed feat isn't fully legit, Saitama is getting his FTL downgraded because his FTL feat is based on that.New speed rating: At least Relativistic+ (Much faster than the likes of Flashy Flash), possibly FTL or higher (Intercepted Geryuganshoop's pitches at this speed)
His lifting strength should be upgraded to Class P as he should be stronger than the likes of Tatsumaki.
Now onto Boros.
Boros
Boros is both getting upgraded and downgraded (Tho he maybe be upgraded in the future but that's only a possibility)First with the upgrade: Boros' CSRC has been recalced to be be much higher result, as the first calc assumes the CSRC to be a generic explosion. But we know that Boros attacks are all through melting of sorts, and the CSRC is just a bigger version of that. Full discussion for the CSRC calc is here. With the new calc, the CSRC now sits at 1.586 to 13.27 exatons. Not quite a big upgrade as many of us had hoped for (R.I.P Moon level OPM), but at least we got far higher into High 6-A, Of course Saitama should upscale from this, as he pretty much just deflected the attack with ease.
Boros's base is also getting upgraded to Low 6-B+, via upscaling from the new calc for the meteo, due to being an above-dragon, and should be more powerful thanthe meteor, which is a dragon level threat.
Now with the downgrade, Boros physicals for his released and Meteoric Burst state are getting downgraded to 6-B. This is due to the fact that he was previously High 6-A because his ship tanked Saitama's moon jump. However this was disproven in this thread due to the fact that the ship does not absorb the full impact of Saitama's moon jump, and that the energy had likely dispersed by then. This was calced by Usklaverei in the main OPM thread to be Low 7-B, which as we know, Boros is much higher than that.
Speed is is being changed to At least Massively Hypersonic, possibly Relativistic via upscaling from Geryu. Rel+ for MB boros is getting removed as the statement where it comes from isn't about him moving at near-lightspeed, but him kicking Saitama at near lightspeed. However, some people in the main OPM thread have brought up that to accomplish a feat like that, you have to move at a similar speed to it. I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff so it should be left to the calc guys who are actually knowledgeable on this stuff.
One could argue that MB boros is faster than Flashy Flash as he surprised Saitama with his speed while Flash didn't. But I'm not too sure about this.
Potential questions that some will bring up
But it was never stated that which form of Boros is an above dragon?I've seen people bring that up, but if ONE wanted a specific form of Boros to be an Above-Dragon, he would've done so, such examples where he did this was the ninja duo, where in their human forms, they were only threat level demon, but became threat level dragon when monsterfied. Same goes with phoenix man. We also put all of Orochi's form at Above-Dragon level, so I don't see any reason why Boros would be any different.
Shouldn't Boros be High 6-A via surviving Saitama's serious punch for a while?
Boros was practically on his death bed and on the verge of death after getting smacked by that, plus the serious punch didn't even hit him directly so it seems more like immortality type 2 rather than durability. So no
But what about scaling to Awakened Garou?
lmao what the heck is a woke garou, is that some kinda pasta or something?
Seriously tho, for starters, he hasn't appeared in the manga yet, so we can't scale Boros to him. And while there are statements from Murata that are backed up by ONE that AG and Boros do scale to one another, the statement came from a long time ago and there's a chance it might not hold up. While I doubt Garou will display a feat that is higher than a 100 petatons, there's a chance he might perform a tier 5 feat, destroying any chances the 2 might scale.
So until awakened Garou appears in the manga, we shouldn't be discussing about whether the 2 should scale or not, as it'll likely get into a lot of speculating. If the 2 do end up scaling however, then I will make a CRT about that, but until then. We should ignore trying to scale the 2.
Fun Fact. I was originally going to wait until AG came out so I could see whether the 2 should scale or not, but considering that likely happens in a few months, and the wait might end up not being worth it, I said screw it and decided to skip waiting and just go ahead with this CRT, and make Boros = Garou a seperate CRT.
The revised Boros profile can be seen here.
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