Bloonarius (Baloons Tower Defense) vs Heihachi Mishima (Tekken) (High 6-B Tourney)

[DemonicDude]

Round 8:
Same Rules as stated in the Tournament.
After a pretty good match up against Cragalanche Heihachi Mishima looks to punch his ticket straight to the Semi Finals but standing in his way is
The Boss Bloon himself Bloonarius

Results:
Bloonarius:
Heihachi Mishima: 4 (FinePoint, Dr.Lemon, RanaPro, Bern ) the match itself is a stomp
Inconlusive:

vs

 

[JustANormalLemon]

first think first i Would like to specifie that bloonarius ups scale much higher then just 165 Teratons, they are mostly likle about equal

 

[DemonicDude]

first think first i Would like to specifie that bloonarius ups scale much higher then just 165 Teratons, they are mostly likle about equal

Yes this was talked when he entered the tournament check here

 

[JustANormalLemon]

second, the way all bloons atack is going to a tanget and self destructing, blunarios is kinda diferent sinse It summons bloons that them atack(by self destruction), in the tier used It should invoke multiple BADs and DDTs to atack, so bassicaly blunarios spam summon of MOAB class bloons and normal Bloons that self destruct at the tearget( in this case, heihachi)

Yes this was talked when he entered the tournament check here

I know, I sugested bloonarius... uhum, It should be even higher if we are using Level 26

(Is more durable than Fortified BADs to an unquantifiable degree), Varies with summons

 

[SamanPatou]

I assume the Bloonarius flies high into the sky, right? And I assume his projectiles can as well reach the ground?

If yes, this is a range stomp, since Heihachi can at most throw rocks or shit at it, or at best climb up the roof of the arena and try to reach it with a jump, but it doesn't seem a really viable option, considering the Bloonarius can as well fly away and keep shooting.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I assume the Bloonarius flies high into the sky, right? And I assume his projectiles can as well reach the ground?

this is a great question that made me noticed that any bloon has levitation/flight in their profiles, some depictions of bloonarios are show flying, wilw the most recent one depict It swiming in a swanp, but mostlhy likle It fly at building level hight, trough Heihachi could trow thing at the zappelin

And I assume his projectiles can as well reach the ground?

It don't have projectile, It's just other bloons that It summon, but yes, they can go down to explode into the fighter face

 

[JustANormalLemon]

If yes, this is a range stomp, since Heihachi can at most throw rocks or shit at it, or at best climb up the roof of the arena and try to reach it with a jump, but it doesn't seem a really viable option, considering the Bloonarius can as well fly away and keep shooting.

well, as I said he could trow rocks at It if he has enough strengh to, but yes, the bloonarius would just be summoning bloons high at the sky wilhe they do It's work

 

[FinePoint]

I assume the Bloonarius flies high into the sky, right? And I assume his projectiles can as well reach the ground?

If yes, this is a range stomp, since Heihachi can at most throw rocks or shit at it, or at best climb up the roof of the arena and try to reach it with a jump, but it doesn't seem a really viable option, considering the Bloonarius can as well fly away and keep shooting.

MOAB class bloons do fly pretty high, since they fly over most map obstacles, some of which are pretty big. Exactly how high is sort of impossible to determine, but logically I don't see a reason it couldn't fly well above melee range.

It can self-destruct itself to utilize its full AP, but it will mostly spawn various balloons up to above 6-B which can reach down to the ground and self-destruct in its place.

The strongest bloon it can spawn is 14.297 Teratons

 

[JustANormalLemon]

MOAB class bloons do fly pretty high, since they fly over most map obstacles, some of which are pretty big. Exactly how high is sort of impossible to determine, but logically I don't see a reason it couldn't fly well above melee range.

It can self-destruct itself to utilize its full AP, but it will mostly spawn various balloons up to above 6-B which can reach down to the ground and self-destruct in its place.

The strongest bloon it can spawn is 14.297 Teratons

I'm almost sure that the boss bloons like blonarius are nostly depicted flying above monkeye citys causing terror, so It wouldn't self destruct, but summon selfe destructing bloons is probable It's strategy.

Mostly likle a range stomp, if not bloonarius vote

 

[FinePoint]

I'm almost sure that the boss bloons like blonarius are nostly depicted flying above monkeye citys causing terror, so It wouldn't self destruct, but summon selfe destructing bloons is probable It's strategy.

Mostly likle a range stomp, if not bloonarius vote

Yes, it prefers to summon, but it will still self-destruct if its summons don't work.
This is proven ingame, as it will kill you if you let it pass after killing all its summons.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Yes, it prefers to summon, but it will still self-destruct if its summons don't work.
This is proven ingame, as it will kill you if you let it pass after killing all its summons.

Well, of course.

One more thing, couldn't Heihachi trow rhings at the zappelin?

 

[Peppersalt43]

The problem with the range can be solved with one simple feat.

Pat Fusty can attack all balloons with his bare hands

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The problem with the range can be solved with one simple feat.

Pat Fusty can attack all balloons with his bare hands

Pat can also stand up in the botton of the ocean with his upper body outiside the water, so he is just big enough to hit there

 

[FinePoint]

The problem with the range can be solved with one simple feat.

Pat Fusty can attack all balloons with his bare hands

Not sure how serious this is, but:

1.) As mentioned Pat is really big
2.) Spikes can also hit the clearly flying blimps
3.) All of it is clearly game mechanics.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

How good is Bloonarius's aim? Because Heihachi have pretty good dodging feat.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

How good is Bloonarius's aim? Because Heihachi have pretty good dodging feat.

IT DON'T SHOOT!! IT'S SUMMON OF SUICIDE BLOONS!!! It's like summoning a bunch with TNT glued in them, there's no aim involved

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bruh i don't play the game man. Can you provide a video to how it fight?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

IT summons B.A.Ds(and other MOABS)

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Bruh i don't play the game man. Can you provide a video to how it fight?

There better videos, but this shoukde show you the concept, just summons lots of MOABs and Bloons of all tiers

Sorry for sounding rude, It's just that this not being a shot was alread mentioned and reading the profile woukd be enough to notice

 

[FinePoint]

Bruh i don't play the game man. Can you provide a video to how it fight?

The bloons it summons would move towards him like tracking bombs, basically.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

This video is better

 

[JustANormalLemon]

For more explanation, the target ofe the bloons here is the moneky city that they get when geting in the other side of the map, when getting there thee bloons suicide bomb the place causing mass destruction

 

[Jamesthetaker]

It's okay man. So i've checked their AP and 2x is the minimum different, i said that because a single Jack 6 perform a 6-B feat and Heihachi just casually destroyed many of them.

Apparently, only some of the summons were 6-B only which mean Heihachi can easily clear out weaker ones. Even 6-B summons probably won't be much of trouble to him, given that he can easily defeated robot who is twice stronger than them or just dodge them. His stamina should allows him to keep up for a long time despite the overwhelming numbers of enemies.

As people said above, range is the major problem here which Heihachi can or can't get around it with enough time. If the number of enemies keep increasing then he will retreat then think of other ways like calling backup or something like that, but i found it quite unlikely to happen.

I'm thinking of Inconclusive, Bloonarius outrange him but Heihachi probably can last long enough to figure out a solution.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Apparently, only some of the summons were 6-B only which mean Heihachi can easily clear out weaker ones. Even 6-B summons probably won't be much of trouble to him, given that he can easily defeated robot who is twice stronger than them or just dodge them. His stamina should allows him to keep up for a long time despite the overwhelming numbers of enemies.

I think you didn't undertood... they wouldn't fight, they would self destruct in his face without thinking, and bloonarius wouldn't stop summoning, even if isn't the case, is like spamming 6-B homing atack explosives aand milions of lowers level ones at the same time

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Oh.... Well my point doesn't change much, the lower ones won't do anything to Heihachi, 6-B summons can but Heihachi could withstand them with stamina and higher durablity or dodge them.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Oh.... Well my point doesn't change much, the lower ones won't do anything to Heihachi, 6-B summons can but Heihachi could withstand them with stamina and higher durablity or dodge them.

you know they are like... big? right? and explosions have big AOE, to end, they are with speed equalized, so It should be almost impossible to dodge the explosions(Not to mention that in this level the bloonarios almost excusivaly summons 6-B ones)

Last question, did you considered the massive upscale of the bloonarios in your 2 times ap calculation?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

and even if he is able to reach the bloonarius, It has immortalty type 2, so just punching It wouldn't be enough to take It down

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I not even mentioned estatistic reduction trough radiation

 

[Jamesthetaker]

It kinda hard to evaluate the explosive size, at best it is dozen of meters but still good enough, i think. The 2x AP come from @FinePoint statement above so it might wrong, if Bloonarius does massively upscales from it then their AP should be even.

I kinda just check them out so i've missed some abilities. Stat Reduction is good but Heihachi can perform enhanced version of his normal attack as well. If i couldn't find anything new for Heihachi then i will leaning to Bloonarius.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

i think. The 2x AP come from @FinePoint statement above so it might wrong, if Bloonarius does massively upscales from it then their AP should be even.

you miss intepreted It, Fine point was talking about His summons, Bloonarius It self scales 12x this in level 11 and in maximun level(the one we use) scales much hiegher the 12x value

 

[Jamesthetaker]

If Bloonarius scales higher than 12x then isn't this a stomp? Bloonarius have far higher AP and outrange hard.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

If Bloonarius scales higher than 12x then isn't this a stomp? Bloonarius have far higher AP and outrange hard.

Idk, I'm bad at math

 

[Jamesthetaker]

7x to 8x AP different is already considered a stomp.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

7x to 8x AP different is already considered a stomp.

He isn't 12x theihachi, he Is 12x strongher, but IDK, better wait for people better in math them me or that aren't dieing of sleep depravation

 

[FinePoint]

My AP statement is referring to the fact that Bloonarius can summon fortified BADs
According to this scaling blog, fortified BADs are 14.297 teratons.

At level 11, Bloonarius is 1.2x stronger than fortified BADs.
This means Bloonarius itself is 17.1564 teratons.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

1.2x

Oh, was 1.2? Not 12? This makes sense

 

[FinePoint]

Oh, was 1.2? Not 12? This makes sense

Yes, so Bloonarius is 17.16 teratons, with 14.30 teratons summons.
Its summons are only a bit weaker than itself.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Yes, so Bloonarius is 17.16 teratons, with 14.30 teratons summons.
Its summons are only a bit weaker than itself.

Bloonarius still massivaly upscalles from 17.16 teeatons thanks to being level 26 if I remenber to correctly

 

[Jamesthetaker]

So this isn't a stomp then.

It seem like their AP is even at best. However, Bloonarius's quantity would overwhelmed him, range and immortality would only make it difficult for Heihachi to take it down. Radiation and Stats Reduction add in the mix and old grandpa have less chance to survived the onslaught. Bloon FRA.

 

[FinePoint]

Bloonarius still massivaly upscalles from 17.16 teeatons thanks to being level 26 if I remenber to correctly

If it's level 26, then yes it massively upscales from 17.16 teratons.
By how much is uncertain since it starts to become game mechanics, but it's definitely a lot.