Bleach speed (Again)

[Purgy]

Maybe

That doesn't explain the smoke/dust though, logically that would only happen if they hit the ground.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Tata @Damage

Is there a way to see how far away Mask was looking?

@Purgy

Don't think it really matters, based on the color it looks nothing like the ground.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

You can use the minimum distance for how far human sight is.

 

[Purgy]

The smoke is convering most of it, and Kubo doesn't regularly draw backgrounds for things like this, I mean even in that exact page Mask is apparently standing in a white abyss.

There's a fair chance they are still in the sky, but again that wouldn't justify the smoke/dust.

Also, as far as I can tell the ground matches the smoke color perfectly.

 

[Purgy]

But, since Kubo did put smoke on Renji's sword perhaps he just doesn't understand how smoke is produced.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Actually Purgy you may be right that they were on the ground lol or at least had to have come from an angle in the sky. i'll let everyone else decide.

Chapter 566.

1. Rukia and Renji are here discussing battle plans clearly before they landed.

2. She tells him to hide after the battle is won.

3.He is clearly waking up from that dream, because he was being analyzed the entire time.

 

[Purgy]

I didn't know about any of that lol but if it's right then it's right I guess.

 

[TataHakai]

So did we finally decide that they came directly from above or?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I posted some scans above, that weren't posted before.

 

[Damage3245]

@Sigurd; that scene of him waking up happened after he beat Mask, right?

 

[TataHakai]

@Tata @Damage
Is there a way to see how far away Mask was looking?

You could probably angsize the width of the beam that's shooting down using the width of rukia and renji's bodies as a minimum size i suppose if you mean how far he was looking in this particular scan

 

[Naeblis495]

@Sigurd; that scene of him waking up happened after he beat Mask, right?

yes it does . NaNaNa even say that he wanted to see the man who beat Mask .

 

[Tyri456]

my method is different since I Imaged the problem as a right triangle. for being more objective and do not count the horizantal range of view (lowball).
we know that the degrees are 60, so the minimun height knowing the distance is 6.67m is:

tan(60)*6.67m = distance

actually with my method the result is 11.55m.

the distance between mask and renji is the base of the right riangle, we know the degrees, therefore we can find the height only of the upper view of mask that is 11.52m that would be the height of the triangle itself, and we are assuming that renji is literally right after that distance, even if in the reality he can be literlly everywhere with only higher distance, so this is the lowest result possible.

@tata what do you think about that?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Sigurd; that scene of him waking up happened after he beat Mask, right?

Yes, but the scans posted before that was him having a flashback of what rukia told him as they were diving.

 

[Naeblis495]

@Sigurd; that scene of him waking up happened after he beat Mask, right?

Yes, but the scans posted before that was him having a flashback of what rukia told him as they were diving.

That convo could have happened before they even reached the shakonmaku tho no ?

 

[TataHakai]

tan(60)*6.67m = distance

actually with my method the result is 11.55m.

@tata what do you think about that?

Math seems fine

Didn't USK halve his figure though?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That convo could have happened before they even reached the shakonmaku tho no ?

I think it's safe to assume they've already breached, considering every single time we've seen them they've already breached.

We can see the sky in the 1st scan of his dream as well.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

Can Shinigami create Reiatsu Footholds in Soul Society to fly like WoL?

 

[Tyri456]

If math is fine, and @damage agree since my method use the FOV then we can apply it.

it is also easier since it is just one formula.

 

[Naeblis495]

@sigurd : true, i can see your point .

 

[Naeblis495]

Can Shinigami create Reiatsu Footholds in Soul Society to fly like WoL?

In the past , i don't think so . But in the TYBW , there is multiple example of shinigami flying in SS .

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

But my point is they'd have to come diagonally to Mask. Mask never left the area from where he saw them.

 

[Tyri456]

Didn't USK halve his figure though?

He did that because is a different methods and calced the fov directly from the pic itself that is why it resulted 140.

halve my result would not make sense at all, since it is like saying that mask couldn't see something that is front of him.

we can accord for 3/4. But this is already a lowball since realistically Renji could be everywhere outside his FOV. Putting 3/4 would mean that Renji is already inside the FOV.

halve the calc make no sense.

 

[USklaverei]

Math seems fine

Didn't USK halve his figure though?

Yes, in that case, he wouldn't have to cross that distance, since he had come from the side, but, considering that from above, does it apply as well or how is it?

 

[USklaverei]

He did that because is a different methods and calced the fov directly from the pic itself that is why it resulted 140.

halve my result would not make sense at all, since it is like saying that mask couldn't see something that is front of him.

we can accord for 3/4. But this is already a lowball since realistically Renji could be everywhere outside his FOV. Putting 3/4 would mean that Renji is already inside the FOV.

halve the calc make no sense.

This is good, we have to take a percentage, since he would not need to cross all this distance, however, he went to the ground, so taking 3/4 of that distance should be fine.

 

[Zoro21043]

damn all these messages anyone a small summary?

 

[Aernasilver]

So what's the results?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

So what's the results?

 

[Aernasilver]

 

[Purgy]

I still think we should assume Renji came in from an angle instead of him flying above Rose and then coming down straight.

If that's agreed on, then the calc needs to be redone since the current 60┬░ of Mask's POV is incorrect.

 

[USklaverei]

As I mentioned, it has two methods and it seems that Tyri456's makes more sense.

He found 11.52 meters, considering that Renji covered at least 3/4 of that distance, that of 8.64 meters.

V = 8.64 / 2.225039e-8
V = 388307800.448 m / s, or 1.29c (FTL)

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well put it in a blog then I guess.

 

[Aernasilver]

Well, if that is the most accurate results, can you update your blog with it and get it looked at again?

 

[USklaverei]

Yes, wait a moment

 

[Nierre]

3 hours later..

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

May I remind everyone that Shinigami aren't exactly capable of flying in Soul Society and even less in the Soul Palace ?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Since when couldn't they fly in Soul Society?

Do I gotta pull up scans of all the times they fly in SS?

 

[HST_Master]

What? Ichigo does it easily during his fight with Byakuya and they're actually surprised they can't make Reishi Footholds when they go to the Soul King's Palace turned Warwhelt, as Ichigo, Byakuya and Yushiro all try thanks to Yhwach screwing with the reishi there so Hirenkyraku was the only way to move through the air.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Really ? I thought they couldn't do it? That's weird. Because if that's the case then why Ichigo even bothered with the Shihouin wing thing, wait why was that thing even made ?

 

[HST_Master]

Dunno. But he maneuvers throughout the air just fine against Byakuya.

https://w11.mangafreak.net/Read1_Bleach_628

Here's Yushiro trying and failing due to Yhwach upping the concentration of Reishi.