Bleach Revisions: Seireitei Scaling

[Dark649]

Yeah, Kenpachi stated that Ichigo could not cut his reiatsu [Which is also used for offense and defense], Yhwach reiatsu was sustaining the words and Ichigo cut through him.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Could someone unlock the profiles then?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

About Gin's infamous Mach 500 statement: Even the OBD dismisses it as one of those cases where the authors get their maths/science wrong. It was agreed on here as well I think.

Bankai multipliers: It is just vague and the x5 to x10 multiplier rule has usually never held true. I don't think that statement should be considered as LordAizenSama said.

@Piercer of Heaven: High 7-C Komamura makes sense considering Ikkaku might be 7-C now. But please man, put all these calcs in a blog.

@Dark649: Yeah, Kuuichigo and LordAizenSama have argued that Yhwach should survive the destruction of the realms in order to remake them, so it would result in 5-B durability for him. This would thus mean 5-B Ichigo because Yhwach considered his Bankai a genuine threat and he was bisected by Ichigo twice. And also, in the canon light novel, it has been stated that post Division Zero training Ichigo was a candidate for Soul King. Post Chair-sama Aizen also scales to this.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Has the Ikkaku calc been evaluated? At this point I know I sound like a F***ing broken record, but we need that evaluated.

 

[ItalianGuy1234]

I think we should also revise Transcendent Aizen's stats and scale him to Kenpachi's calc like we do with his monster form.

 

[KuuIchigo]

I agreed with the 10 days statement since what you guys have already said how Kubo can't draw backgrounds for shit. It was brought up before but was only denied because scaling > statements, but since then there have been multiple accepted calcs which uses days walking statements to get the size. It would be double standards if we didn't accept it here.

The problem though is that Piercer didn't account for rest breaks which I agree with him that a Shinigami of Yoruichi's caliber would not need breaks considering Ichigo who just reattained his Shinigami powers could fight Urahara for, IIRC, 5 days and 5 nights straight and she is >>>>>>>>>>>> Ichigo and is at least comparable to Urahara. I guess he should make a low-end to account for breaks and see where it goes.

Also what about this calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DodoNova2/Hitsugaya's_Storm_cloud_calc_(Bleach)

And this one: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...yone_thinks_is_going_to_get_some_crazy_result

Should be re-caled tbh. He used the shikai affected range when Toshiro did it in his bankai. Hitsugaya stated that he controls the sky. To show how far it reached, he was at one corner of the tow and the cloud reached Starrk who was also at one corner of the town almost instantly. It most likely covered the whole town.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Also Las Noches' statement by nel needs to be used.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

@Soldier Blue Unfortunately, no.

@ItalianGuy1234 Agreed.

@Kuulchigo TBH, that does make the most sense. I'll edit it in my blog posts.

@LordAizenSama I'll do that too.

 

[Antvasima]

Do any profiles need to be unlocked yet, or are there still issues to be worked out?

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Yhwach, Ichigo and Aizen's profiles definitely need to be unlocked. There changes are long overdue.

 

[ItalianGuy1234]

@Ant from the looks of it: kg ┬ÀAizen: Chrysalis form, Butterfly Form & Monster Form will be upgraded to High 6-A+ via scaling, Post TS will be 5-B for defeating Yhwach

┬ÀIchigo: BoS should be 8-A+ and his Shikai is 7-C+ for defeating Ikkaku, Dangai will be 6-A+ and so will be True Shikai & Merged Hollow form, True Bankai will be 5-B

┬ÀIkkaku: upgraded to 7-C+

┬ÀKomamura: Upgraded to High 7-C

┬ÀKenpachi: needs to be upgraded to High 6-A+

┬ÀGerard: needs to be upgraded to High 6-A+

┬ÀByakuya: needs to be upgraded to High 6-A+

┬ÀToshiro: Pre TS needs to be upgraded to 7-B, Post Time Skip is High 6-A+

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

@Ant from the looks of it: kg ┬ÀAizen: Chrysalis form, Butterfly Form & Monster Form will be upgraded to 6-A+ via scaling, Post TS will be 5-B for defeating Yhwach

┬ÀIchigo: BoS should be 8-A+ and his Shikai is 7-C+ for defeating Ikkaku, Dangai will be 6-A+ and so will be True Shikai & Merged Hollow form, True Bankai will be 5-B

┬ÀIkkaku: upgraded to 7-C+

┬ÀKomamura: Upgraded to High 7-C

┬ÀKenpachi: needs to be upgraded to 6-A

┬ÀGerard: needs to be upgraded to 6-A

┬ÀByakuya: needs to be upgraded to 6-A

┬ÀToshiro: Pre TS needs to be upgraded to 7-B, Post Time Skip is 6-A

A lot of the current calcs still need to be revised, the only thing confirmed 100% is 5-B God Tiers and most likely Gremmy's meteor.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

BTW, here's the calc for Gremmy's meteor:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...each_Calc_-_Kenpachi_Slays_A_Meteor_(Revised)

 

[LordAizenSama]

Looks good.

Can someone unlock Ichigo Yhwach and Aizen?

 

[Fllflourine]

Have done so

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Zangetsu too.

 

[Fllflourine]

Unlocked as well

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

May I do the honours?

 

[KuuIchigo]

Okay. I'll do the touch-ups.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I'll take care of final touches and lock the pages again when all is done.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

What should we do about True Shikai Ichigo?

 

[KuuIchigo]

He'll be whatever Meteor calc is. He doesn't have that much feats to put him above it.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

He'll be whatever Meteor calc is. He doesn't have that much feats to put him above it.

High 6-B (Large Country level) then.

 

[KuuIchigo]

It's actually Multi-Continent from the revised one.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

It's actually Multi-Continent from the revised one.

Eh? Which one is that? I was thinking we were going with this calc since a couple of calc group members approved.

 

[KuuIchigo]

This one. It just had the size change. So not that much different.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

This one. It just had the size change. So not that much different.

 

[ItalianGuy1234]

Don't forget to change Transcendent Aizen's stats too

 

[KuuIchigo]

Guys, for now we are just changing the God Tiers stats. Everything else should be worked one by one.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Guys, for now we are just changing the God Tiers stats. Everything else should be worked one by one.

^ This.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

True Shikai Ichigo would be At least Moon level scaling from Gremmy's meteor.

 

[KuuIchigo]

Which is Multi-Continent.

Honestly just change the last key only and we can have a discussion on this later.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Theres very likely going to be massive upgrades all around the board. So stay tuned.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

The meteor is Multi-Continent level+ but originally Top Tiers like Jugram, Adult Toshiro and etc were given the Tier above the meteor. Which is logical because the damage Nozarashi did to Hoffnung compared to the damage Tōshirō did is like 12.5 times, if you scale it.

 

[KuuIchigo]

Yes I know. Giving that it's close to moon level, Bankai Zaraki would probably jump to Moon, but for now we are just changing the last key to Planet which was discussed and aceepted like 8 months ago.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Ight.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Merged Hollow Form Ichigo should get Planet level scaling too.

 

[KuuIchigo]

I don't think so. It barely had any feat. Logically, Merged Hollow True Bankai Ichigo should be his strongest form, but you know how that went.

Only True Bankai Ichigo gets it.

 

[ItalianGuy1234]

I think it should be like this True Shikai < Merged Hollow form + Bankai < True Bankai

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

@Kuulchigo Ichigo cleaves through Yhwach while not even using his full power:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W71-_MKPq...0mE2O0Zwijc_923OxEX5HACHM/s16000/0677-001.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZXQVUafIo...BkFQuU-IaW-9M_hw0jGLzwCHM/s16000/0677-004.png

Forces Yhwach to activate The "Almighty", even though Yhwach stated beforehand that he wouldn't use it, so he could enjoy the fight

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rC0IidHF_...v-Tj_BjIG2KkC_W7vGpzMACHM/s16000/0677-006.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t28ge0hBG...8kjeYHnsXOhADrMODyDZCQCHM/s16000/0673-008.png

Directly clashes with Yhwach:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-45awwd05-...xjjSy1ijDkEtkWvCycpchQCHM/s16000/0677-008.png

@ItalianGuy1234 Merged Hollow Form + Bankai>>>>True Bankai.