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No , because ichigo was above aizen , he just couldn't access this energy for battle.AppleLord said:
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Bleach Revisions Part 2: Arrancar Arc
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Does anyone have a summary on what is left to be discussed?
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Things left to discuss:
- Nnoitra scaling to Nel? (tr;dl: doesn't scale so we can move on without using assumption and it is safer, also nnoitra is more durable than offensive)
- Hollow Mask Ichigo scaling to Aizen (seems solved since the majority agreed to scale ichigo to yami)
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Will Transcendent Aizen, God Aizen, Dangai Ichigo and FGT Ichigo have separate threads?
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Yes.
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That's good, maybe calc Lanza will be solved by then.
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We know he isn't full power right now.
if you check that key, it has a "higher" at full power.
if you check that key, it has a "higher" at full power.
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Why is Nnoitra's base durability being scaled to the durability of the other Arrancar in their resurreccion states?
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yes, but is 2xSigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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Because he's the most durable Espada.
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I'm sure he also has a feat or two of him showing that he should be scaled above other Espada in base, durability wise.
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One thing I also don't understand, why is Toshiro just Relativistic with Bankai? It doesn't make sense, as your bankai doesn't increase your stats.
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It's not from a multiplier, he can fight and keep up with Harribel.
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Its because he is somehow still living and breath against Halibel...USklaverei said:
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Yes, but I shouldn't specify with Bankai, since he has that speed at Base \ Shikai too
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Yes, but why would his base form scale to their resurrecion form?Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Shouldn't it be that his base form scales above/equal to their base forms, and his resurrecion form scales above/equal to their resurrecion forms?
Him stating "I have the toughest Hierro" doesn't mean his base form is more durable than their resurrecion forms.
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Yes, but why would his base form scale to their resurrecion form?
Shouldn't it be that his base form scales above/equal to their base forms, and his resurrecion form scales above/equal to their resurrecion forms?
Him stating "I have the toughest Hierro" doesn't mean his base form is more durable than their resurrecion forms.
I agree with this.
Shouldn't it be that his base form scales above/equal to their base forms, and his resurrecion form scales above/equal to their resurrecion forms?
Him stating "I have the toughest Hierro" doesn't mean his base form is more durable than their resurrecion forms.
I agree with this.
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Like I said before, nowhere does it say anything about base and res. It simply states that he has the strongest hierro out of any Espada like 5 times.
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@Sigurd; if it doesn't specify that his Hierro is stronger than theirs in their resurrecion state, I see no reason why we should assume it.
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Again it says he is the most durable out of all Espada several times. I posted like 4-5 scans stating that. You on the other hand haven't provided well anything to support it's only talking about base form for some reason.
He even tanked a hit from Res-Nel. His whole thing is being too durable. It's not unnatural for Espada to specialize in something. Ulquiorra sacrifices stats for keeping his regen for example.
He even tanked a hit from Res-Nel. His whole thing is being too durable. It's not unnatural for Espada to specialize in something. Ulquiorra sacrifices stats for keeping his regen for example.
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@sigurd
you should give up so we can move on, or maybe you can extrapolate some context from the databook so we can assume that the statements has a general validity.
Im neutral since the databook came after, so the statements on them would cover the entire volume, therefore the probability of a general validly is high, but also I don't remember well the context behind it. So neutral
you should give up so we can move on, or maybe you can extrapolate some context from the databook so we can assume that the statements has a general validity.
Im neutral since the databook came after, so the statements on them would cover the entire volume, therefore the probability of a general validly is high, but also I don't remember well the context behind it. So neutral
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ICHIGO'S BANKAI, not Toshiro's
Isn't the whole point of ichigo's bankai that it makes him faster ?
Isn't the whole point of ichigo's bankai that it makes him faster ?
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In my opinion, Stark, Barragan and Haribell should be Relativistic still at Base, since their Resurrección does not increase their speed, it is not something like Ulquiorra and Grimmjow that shows a significant increase in speed increase.
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Bruh
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Bankai varies between users. Some are a stat amp and some are hax. Some are both.
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Halibel's Resurrecion increases speed
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What's your problem man? Toshiro's Bankai only increases the amount of ice he can control or something, NOT ALL BANKAI increases his speed.LordWhis said:
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The increase is nothing to make her jump from Sub-Relativistic to Relativistic, so she should be Relativistic at Base, just like Stark and Barragan.Dangai Ichigo said:
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The increase is nothing to make her jump from Sub-Relativistic to Relativistic, so she should be Relativistic at Base, just like Stark and Barragan.
That's not what I'm saying
That's not what I'm saying
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That's true. I remember her being distinctly portrayed as being faster once she activated it.Dangai Ichigo said:
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Haribell should definitely have her Res taken as a speed increase.
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I don't understand what y'all wish to change. the stats don't change at all if y'all want to include some multiplier. The sub rel in base already makes them rel when they either Res or use Bankai.
