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@Soldier: I heard ya, I just disagree on the definition of tanking and was looking for how you define it is all.
@Amlad: Yes he is, as I said, Shunsui said it himself. Unless you can prove Shunsui is an invalid authority on reiatsu then it sticks. Also saying they are vastly more powerful doesn't stick unless it is true. Same applies for feats. I'll lay it out for you:
Shunsui defeated SS arc Chad when he was first introduced. Shunsui >Chad. That said, SS arc chad is prety much irrelevant by FKKT arc.
Shunsui's next fight was against Yamamoto, though it was off paneled, there was some suggestion he was at least half as strong as Yamamoto, who in turn had no feats but was the leader and likely storngest captain besides Aizen if only because he fought two captains at the same time.
Starrk was the next fight. Starrk had no feats to go off but we have canon comparison to barragan and haribel, though they in turn are also feat less we scale them by rank over other arrancar and those weaker feats. Also he scaled to Yamamoto, Chad, etc.
Shunsui's and starrk's battle in base is pretty laid back though Starrk gets the upper hand in hits
Starrk partially releases and overpowers Shikai shunsui. Therefore Gun Starrk>Shikai Shunsui
Love and rose and get involved. They measure up to Starrk and force him to fully release. By his own admission and by feats his ceros can't injure them so he has to use more power. Starrk successfully deals damage to them but they are still able to stand.
Shunsui re enters the fold now that Starrk has lost his weapons essentially bringing him down to his base power level and defeats him.
Full powered Yammy>Wolf Starrk=>Barragan=>Harribel=>Love+Rose>Gun Starrk>Shikai Shunsui>Base Starrk=>Base Shunsui . . . .
Shunsui kept up with Starrk to a degree but so did the visards. Shunsui also took a cero to the back but said cero was deemed to weak to hurt anybody.
Love and Rose are otherwise featless beyond beign captain Lv by rank. Soifon, Shinji, Kensei, Toshiro (FKKT) should all about be compravle to them.
Lastly no one used bankai against starrk so they only used about 10-20% of their true power. In Shunsui's case he is likely much more powerful than Starrk is but not with just shikai.
As for Yamamoto, his feats in FKKT put him vastly above Jushiro. Via wonderweiss, Yama should have atomized Jushiro with a flick of his wrist, let alone shikai. Therefore it goes without question he was either holding back or Kubo changed their PLs latter on. Either way this off panel battle is not an accurate indication of Shunsui's and Jushiro's strength relative to Yamamoto which brings him back to chad (Too weak) and Starrk (Whose lack of feats means he goes by rank).
@Amlad: Yes he is, as I said, Shunsui said it himself. Unless you can prove Shunsui is an invalid authority on reiatsu then it sticks. Also saying they are vastly more powerful doesn't stick unless it is true. Same applies for feats. I'll lay it out for you:
Shunsui defeated SS arc Chad when he was first introduced. Shunsui >Chad. That said, SS arc chad is prety much irrelevant by FKKT arc.
Shunsui's next fight was against Yamamoto, though it was off paneled, there was some suggestion he was at least half as strong as Yamamoto, who in turn had no feats but was the leader and likely storngest captain besides Aizen if only because he fought two captains at the same time.
Starrk was the next fight. Starrk had no feats to go off but we have canon comparison to barragan and haribel, though they in turn are also feat less we scale them by rank over other arrancar and those weaker feats. Also he scaled to Yamamoto, Chad, etc.
Shunsui's and starrk's battle in base is pretty laid back though Starrk gets the upper hand in hits
Starrk partially releases and overpowers Shikai shunsui. Therefore Gun Starrk>Shikai Shunsui
Love and rose and get involved. They measure up to Starrk and force him to fully release. By his own admission and by feats his ceros can't injure them so he has to use more power. Starrk successfully deals damage to them but they are still able to stand.
Shunsui re enters the fold now that Starrk has lost his weapons essentially bringing him down to his base power level and defeats him.
Full powered Yammy>Wolf Starrk=>Barragan=>Harribel=>Love+Rose>Gun Starrk>Shikai Shunsui>Base Starrk=>Base Shunsui . . . .
Shunsui kept up with Starrk to a degree but so did the visards. Shunsui also took a cero to the back but said cero was deemed to weak to hurt anybody.
Love and Rose are otherwise featless beyond beign captain Lv by rank. Soifon, Shinji, Kensei, Toshiro (FKKT) should all about be compravle to them.
Lastly no one used bankai against starrk so they only used about 10-20% of their true power. In Shunsui's case he is likely much more powerful than Starrk is but not with just shikai.
As for Yamamoto, his feats in FKKT put him vastly above Jushiro. Via wonderweiss, Yama should have atomized Jushiro with a flick of his wrist, let alone shikai. Therefore it goes without question he was either holding back or Kubo changed their PLs latter on. Either way this off panel battle is not an accurate indication of Shunsui's and Jushiro's strength relative to Yamamoto which brings him back to chad (Too weak) and Starrk (Whose lack of feats means he goes by rank).
