Bleach Bankai General Discussion 18

[Zezu1995]

btw is anyone gonna change ichibeis range to cont-planet due to his darkness control?

 

[Zezu1995]

hey anyone know if this kido is real light? i looked at how it retracts and thought ill show to confirm https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Gaki_Rekkō

 

[Aernasilver]

That Kido is probably not even canon and it already fails at being real light since it bends.

 

[HST_Master]

It's not. Koga Kuchiki was the only person to ever use it.

 

[W0NDER3X]

Umm... did Mask Superstar have a LS attack? His Star Flash IIRC? And Renji reacted to it and blocked it.

 

[AppleLord]

Umm... did Mask Superstar have a LS attack? His Star Flash IIRC? And Renji reacted to it and blocked it.

I gotcha. A bit of science before people say that light doesn't expands which is correct, however, a beam of light that is shone through a hole (in this case a star shape hole) spreads out as it travels. A beam with perfectly parallel rays would never spread out. Every beam of light has a finite beam width and therefore can be thought of as emanating from a hole. Diffraction is a wave effect, so it applies to laser beams as well.

 

[W0NDER3X]

So, is there a reason this feat isnt usable?

Also, i found something interesting about Gremmy:


Take a look to the left, you will see Gremmy thinking. However, at least to me, that doesnt look like he's opening a portal, but rather simply thinking about planets, stars and outer space in general.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

A portal to outer space.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Hmm, what happened to the Bankai multiplier thing? Did it get accepted? Because i can't remember.

 

[USklaverei]

To this day I do not know how this is not accepted as real light hahaha

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Why not? It actually has properties of light.

 

[Amlad22]

Why is Nanao relativistic but Base Aizen is still massively hypersonic+ after the upgrades? Boys I think you missed something.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

To this day I do not know how this is not accepted as real light hahaha

It creates a shadow , Diffuse Reflection and Definition here . Is there anything else i'm missing or do we need more?

 

[Xulrev]

Wait...Lille isnt accepted as light?? Well I guess that's a CRT that's necessary

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Yes.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Hmm, what happened to the Bankai multiplier thing? Did it get accepted? Because i can't remember.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Remember bleach sunlight nor lamps are real light.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Huh?

 

[Xulrev]

I believe that's referring to the Aaroniero sunlight dodge which people dismiss.

Also, Lille has Light Manipulation on his profile even, I've no clue why a calc based on dodging his light hasn't been made honestly.

 

[TataHakai]

Light manipulation doesn't mean something is light speed

Plenty of characters who have light manipulation don't have light speed accepted

 

[Xulrev]

He's creating and manipulating actual light, no clue why actual light isn't lightspeed. I think that one's self evident

 

[TataHakai]

Lille's light has been discussed and rejected half a dozen times already

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

@Xulrev

Nope, in that Auswhalen thread, they told me the sunlight in soul society isn't real and that the lamps don't behave like light lmao.

 

[M11UTD]

I agree with Xulrev, CRT should be made.

 

[TataHakai]

We've already had a ton of CRT's for Lille's light

There's no need unless we have new evidence, if it's going to be the same stuff being said it's pointless

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

@Xulrev

Nope, in that Auswhalen thread, they told me the sunlight in soul society isn't real and that the lamps don't behave like light lmao.

The ****?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

We've already had a ton of CRT's for Lille's light

There's no need unless we have new evidence, if it's going to be the same stuff being said it's pointless

Are you going to provide evidence of not being real light?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Lille was never properly addressed in that thread at all, y'all just ignored it and talked about Auswhalen.

 

[TataHakai]

Lille has been adressed in prior threads though?

And peter you can look through all the CRT's that came before for evidence, i'm not going over this argument for the millionth time

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

THere is no evidence like I said, it was literally ignored. You should be able to tell us why it was rejected if it happens so many times with a valid argument.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

It's easier to just look at the scans and tell me. But whatever.

 

[M11UTD]

Lol

 

[USklaverei]

Hmm, what happened to the Bankai multiplier thing? Did it get accepted? Because i can't remember.

Me and Imade are working on it, a CRT will be done later.

 

[TataHakai]

Are we really going through this again? Auswahlen, Negacion, Lille's light have been discussed a million times before and rejected for a reason

They have plenty of things that go against it behaving like real light and barely anything/nothing that supports it behaving like real light

If you want to make another CRT but i'm certain

Lille's light for example

• The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or... (It never did)
• The beam reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror (Sure, however this is very iffy as Nanao's power is simply the ability to reflect anything of a gods power, so not sure if this is even usable)
• The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources (No)
• It is stated to be made of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source (His beam is stated to be light sure but not made of photons, and being stated to be light alone isn't enough)
• It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera (No again)

So you have at best 2 out of 5 of the standards, and 1 of them is arguable.

On the other hand

• It is shown at different speeds in the same material (He literally explodes and it takes longer for some of the light to come down than others, meaning they are moving at different speeds)
• It is tangible and can be interacted with physically by normal humans (Yes, this one is obvious)
• They do not travel in straight lines (unless you can prove refraction/reflection, see above) (His light beams expand as they travel further away from him, that's not how Light behaves)

As i said i'm not getting into this conversation again, and there's no need to bring it up unless

A) We change our light standards

B) we find out new information about Lille or the others

 

[USklaverei]

Sunlight

Light Lille

Sunlight on Bleach is not LS :(

 

[JohnHendrix212]

After rereading the chapter, I agree with Tata in this regard.

 

[TataHakai]

Yes because Light from the sun is definitely comparable to magical light shot out by another character

It's not our fault Kubo's light doesn't behave like real light, don't blame the standards on it

 

[KazuiK]

Shinigami can interact with intangible things like energy, not that I'm trying to prove anything and I do not remember anyone interacting with Aushwallen.

 

[TataHakai]

Kazui that specific feature was discussed in a proposed change to our light standards but denied

 

[KazuiK]

To be honest some rules about light of the site are quite stupid, a person who can interact with the light but the light will be denied because it was touched .. Unfortunately the topic about light was denied, it was actually closed but okay.