Bleach Bankai General Discussion 18

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Huh

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

wasn't the 7-A calc based off of storm KE from that one ice kid
did that storm even qualify for KE

Did I miss something the last many times I pointed this out

Would you mind checking it out and recalcing it if there are issues you see?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Here is the calc.

 

[DMUA]

User blog:Soldier Blue/Bleach cloud calc for heck sake

Kep's variation on this was invalidated after revisions, as shown with Seven Deadly sins and probably naruto but I dunno if that actually went anywhere

 

[HST_Master]

IIRC there was also a version using Condensation that got similar results. It's on the same blog of the accepted Version using KE.

 

[DMUA]

I believe that uses the mass of 1.003 KG/M^3 for air in a cloud, rather then the actual mass of water content, 1-3 grams per meter cubed

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So what would change about the calc then?

 

[DMUA]

It would go to like Low 7-B or that general area

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Would you be willing to make a calc then for it then?

 

[DMUA]

For a specific answer...

The low end volume is 8.72406612e11 meters cubed, times 1 is 8.72406612e11 grams, or 872406612 Kilograms

Times 2264705 is....

1.9757436e+15 Joules, 472.214057416 Kilotons, Large Town level

Then again, this uses older cloud standards, so if I ran through the entire process unabridged, I bet we'd get more where I was expecting

 

[DMUA]

Would you be willing to make a calc then for it then?

It would be easy enough if I gather up all my stuff

Toshiro's storm was moderate, right?

actually, is there anything about it not covered by User blogMUA/Standard calculation for just any old generic storm

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

You're the expert, not me. I'll give you every piece of context and scan on his two storm creations:

Toshiro making a storm in Shikai in the SS Arc.

Toshiro making a storm in Bankai in the Arrancar Arc.

 

[DMUA]

The first one isn't KE

second one... this shot kinda looks like he's manually moving the air but I dunno

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

It's his power, subjugation of the weather.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I always interpreted it as him controlling the weather and moving it into position or how he wants it.

Here it's stated he controls the weather.

Here he says the entire sky is under his control.

The translation of the ability is literally "weather subjugation".

He even opens up the sky on command to drop snow made in it.

 

[DMUA]

You can manipulate weather without manually shoving the air into place at like Mach 15

So, I dunno if KE would really apply for it

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Well I wouldn't know how else he does it, the ability description is that he controls the weather and moves it about as well as the visuals of the air and clouds moving into positon or opening up on command.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

YOu can see him moving the clouds.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The Shikai Tenso Jurin has clouds physically spiralling inwards until it finishes above him. Why would that not be KE or am i missing something?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I'm wondering the same.

 

[DMUA]

Hmm

Yeah I guess that would about count

 

[AnonymousBlank]

>DMUA agrees

My work here is done

 

[DMUA]

I don't think I entirely get it but either way yeah this looks KE enough I guess

 

[AppleLord]

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Shall we get to calcing Gonryomaru storm feats lol

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Is there even enough of a visual to calc that or would we just go

"It made clouds and lightning, so assume the standard"

 

[M11UTD]

SK killing that giant Menos and creates the worlds from his body is very similar to Odin and Ymir.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Only Hueco Mundo.

 

[Zezu1995]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3169534#11

 

[M11UTD]

"Reishi had not existed in these times; however, the Soul King defeated this Hollow and transmuted it's condensed body into Reishi. The Reishi that is the worlds of Hueco Mundo and Soul Society."

 

[Zezu1995]

so he created resshi thats amazing can we just say hes the omni of the verse?

 

[Xulrev]

@M11UTD

Which translation did you get this from? The schneitzel one merely says he turned the hollow into the sands of reishi, not that he created reishi from nothing. That's Reality Warping or Physics Manipulation that I need to add to the CRT that's ongoing for Prime Soul King abilities

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

That's not a translation, those are my words from the CRT on the meaning of the passage.

 

[Xulrev]

Ah okay. Hmmm I guess I just didn't recognize it as such. I need to update the CRT for Prime SK then

 

[M11UTD]

I got it from IMade's thread.

 

[Sekkonds.]

CFYOW stats that souls actually existed..which are made out of reishi

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

so the new Las Noches size will bump GRC , but will render CO and Lanza calcs nonexistent

so less than 100 gigatons,instead of 440 and 890 from the old calcs

can anyone even call it an upgrade at this point?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

All these trolls and sock are annoying ....

But is an upgrade considering the previous stuff were never applied. Still dont understand why we can't just use the pixel scaling for getting the height of LN.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

i mean,isn't that obvious,why we can't do that?

as if there is no one in this wiki, who made downgrading/lowballing Bleach his hobby at this point

but i digress

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Because the wall's length and width are hardly so inconsistent as to warrant not using pixel scaling. Unless I missed some statement of one being so and so many times greater or shorter than the other and completely contradicts the panel, there should be absolutely no problem with using it. Or have people forgotten why we decided on one method or the other?