Bleach Bankai General Discussion 16

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Most of those images are also from Brave Souls..Wait, we are only gonna do the special Brave Soul characters with their own story

 

[FuuHouHou]

It has profiles that levels have no explanation. Although, I think it best to see this right when the novel ends. So the profiles will receive updates, at least for the most part.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Weirdly enough with Brave Souls we literally only have statements for it since there's no way to see feats...Except when they use anime scans...Does that mean we can use the anime calcs for them ? Or nah ?

 

[M11UTD]

Is there going to be a profile for Kuruyashiki Kenpachi?

I didn't read SAFWY but I read this on Bleach wiki:

"Bankai Special Ability: His bankai's range reaches several times that of jureichi or that of entire Seireitei. His bankai allows Kuruyashiki to summon a jaw of the aforementioned size from the ground, which, at the time of its summoning, crushes everything without distinction of living or non-living between its teeth. (The only exception being Kuruyashiki)."


How powerful is that and wouldn't it scale to Unohana, fullbring arc Kenpachi and Azashiro?

 

[AppleLord]

That's not canon.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That novel is canon. But no it doesn't scale because it's a technique he can use every 6 months or so.

 

[M11UTD]

Yeah but isn't bankai is just 5-10x the reiatsu of shikai anyway. And Unohana still claimed to be the strongest Kenpachi before Zaraki's awakening.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

We dont know their Shikai to make a claim from the 5-10x.

 

[Zezu1995]

bankais multiplier is just their current power with 5-10x iirc i dont know if shikai buff or not tbh

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Bankai is a multiplier of ability.

Kenpachi and Ichigo get stat upgrades. Toshiro's let's him create more ice, Byakuya goes from 1000 petals to 100,000,000.

It varies per character and some have stat differences and ability differences or just one of them.

 

[M11UTD]

His bankai is DC type not hax. Aand we all know in Bleach everything is related to the user's reiatsu, so that giant jaw he summons is made from his energy.

 

[MachTwo]

He will scale to Gremmy meteor, via statement both is more or less have the same AP

So there is no new scaling.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

He will scale to Gremmy meteor, via statement both is more or less have the same AP
So there is no new scaling.

that makes even less sense

so random Kuru(whatever) Kenpachi's Bankai is low 6-b

that makes Unohana at least low 6-b, cause she should be stronger than Kuru(whatever)


that makes BASE Zaraki in the end of their fight at least low 6-b, cause he killed her

and Zaraki needed shikai to match gremmy's low 6-b meteor

 

[MachTwo]

Why? he lost to Kenpachi Azashiro because he can't use his bankai, thus pretty much nobody will scale to his bankai, afaik there is no statement who says Azashiro bankai>>>>Kuruyashiki Bankai or base kenpachi before training /and or Unohana >>>Kuruyashiki Bankai.

 

[AppleLord]

I thought that info came from Brave Souls. Nevermind me then.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

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ah,ok then, if no one scales to dude's bankai, then everything is good

 

[Zezu1995]

Bankai is a multiplier of ability.
Kenpachi and Ichigo get stat upgrades. Toshiro's let's him create more ice, Byakuya goes from 1000 petals to 100,000,000.

It varies per character and some have stat differences and ability differences or just one of them.

makes sense everything fits now.. but that would mean the physical/rei power types only get stat upgrades correct?

 

[Zezu1995]

yo did we ever figure out how strong the espadas with HOG are?

 

[Warren_Valion]

Weren't those forms of Grimmjow and Nel hypothetical Segunda Etapa forms and not amped by the Hogyoku?

 

[HST_Master]

I can't see where it is on Nel, but the Hogyoku is in Grimmjows stomach.

 

[KazuiK]

I can't see where it is on Nel, but the Hogyoku is in Grimmjows stomach.

Nell's Hogyoku seems to be on his spear.

 

[Zezu1995]

or it might be somewhere else... huehuehuehuehue ^.^

 

[KazuiK]

Lol

 

[KazuiK]

True Shikai Ichigo should be on the same level as Yhwach after absorbing Mimihagi and Soul King, Byakuya says Ichigo's Reiatsu is on the same level as Yhwach.

 

[Aernasilver]

He didn't say that. He just said he could feel Ichigo's reiatsu since he was engaging against Yhwach.

 

[KazuiK]

He didn't say that. He just said he could feel Ichigo's reiatsu since he was engaging against Yhwach.

In fact he said "Can you feel his Reiatsu, no? That thing is on Yhwach level."

 

[Aernasilver]

Mistranslation.

 

[KazuiK]

It does not seem to be a translation error, I searched on some sites in English and it was the same thing. Also, it makes sense Ichigo is on his level, after all he takes various attacks from Yhwach.

 

[Aernasilver]

Because they all upload the same scans.

Viz. 2 more translations check the 8th number/page.

 

[MachTwo]

>>That thing is on Yhwach level

Calling ichigo thing

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

If anything that would end up referring to Gerard due to his...Transformation

 

[Zezu1995]

yes it was about gerald ive been saying this forever... bankai ichigo is the only one who can fully be on juhas lvl but it was negated cuz juha thought it was an issue to deal with

 

[M11UTD]

Hollow Ichigo was already on par with Yhwach and forced him to use the Almighty, Bankai Ichigo should be above Yhwach in raw power. Yhwach was only stomping do to hax.

 

[M11UTD]

And it's not a surprise since shikai Ichigo's power alone was enough to make Ichibei think of making him the new Soul King.

 

[Zezu1995]

anyone got the viz for yamas bankai? i wanna see if he really has erasure cuz i saw another scan that stated its hellfire

 

[Damage3245]

This is what Viz says for his East ability.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

anyone got the viz for yamas bankai? i wanna see if he really has erasure cuz i saw another scan that stated its hellfire

The official translations are turn everything into ash iirc.

 

[Zezu1995]

^^ that was for shikai .. and i need the one where they showed him using bankai in the past thats the scan

 

[Ovy7]

In raw power True Bankai Ichigo > SK Yhwach. Remember that True Bankai Ichigo, with only his Shinigami powers, impaled and one-shooted SK Yhwach, a Yhwach that prior to this had absorbed Ichigo's Hollow and Quincy powers + Gerard's power + Jugram's power.

 

[AppleLord]

True Shikai + Horn blitzed and forced SK Yhwach to cheat with Almighty after Gran Rey Cero cut SK Yhwach.

True Bankai + Horn was a BIG NO for Yhwach that he completly feared to confront that Ichigo, and choose a future were Ichigo's blade was broken.

True Bankai one-shotted Yhwach twice.

Hax >>> brute force.