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Black Clover Speed
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The issue with that line of thought is that Licht is already moving faster than light and then Yami could tag him before he could fully dodge. Which means Yami can tag a FTL character, he then right before this is tagged by one of Lichts normal light attacks, which would presumably have us assume that the attack would have to be either compartive to or faster than Yami in order to do that, especially since we already know he's reading Licht's attacks.
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Patry moves at the speed of light not FTL.Duedate8898 said:
Yami tag him at the moment when Patry standing still right before him but because Patry have reflexes comparable to human he dodged to late and Yami could tagged him.
Yami have not FTL reflexes .He is mere human with slowest magic in Black Clover world.
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Furthermore, he himself mentions that he is only doing this because of Ki, since he predicts the movements.
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Lightspeed >>>>> Light Magic >>>>> Dark Magic
So we have something wrong
So we have something wrong
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Predicting movements definitely helps though.
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So you're right on Patry moving Lightspeed, my bad on that.
The rest however is that both people who can move at lightspeed, failed to fully dodge an attack from yami. To assume they they can't react at this speed as well, doesn't make sense. Yami is noted to have slow magic, he's also noted to boost his speed with reinforcement magic to cover for said slowness of his magic. It's said within the text itself, that's exactly how Yami is defending himself.
The rest however is that both people who can move at lightspeed, failed to fully dodge an attack from yami. To assume they they can't react at this speed as well, doesn't make sense. Yami is noted to have slow magic, he's also noted to boost his speed with reinforcement magic to cover for said slowness of his magic. It's said within the text itself, that's exactly how Yami is defending himself.
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I will admit, Yami himself notes that he has to catch Patri off guard in order to hit him properly, which means his dark magic attacks themselves are definitely slower than Patri, but the difference in speed can't be too large if he can still tag him with ranged attacks even when he's surprised.
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Yes, that's why I cited Relativistic + would make a lot more sense.
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The fact that Yami can block near point blank attacks from Patry would disagree with just Relatvistic+.
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He being Relativistic + combined with his movement prediction, makes perfect sense than assuming he is FTL.
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Yes, so let's consider it FTL and thus completely ignore that Dark Magic is said to be extremely inferior to Light Magic in terms of speed.
Let's also ignore that Yami says that he could only do this by predicting his movements.
Let's also ignore Yami citing that he couldn't hit Licht directly because he moves at the speed of light.
Let's also ignore that Yami says that he could only do this by predicting his movements.
Let's also ignore Yami citing that he couldn't hit Licht directly because he moves at the speed of light.
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"Yes, so let's consider it FTL and thus completely ignore that Dark Magic is said to be extremely inferior to Light Magic in terms of speed."
And let's completely ignore that Patry said Yami condenses his darkness into his katana to make it fast
"Let's also ignore that Yami says that he could only do this by predicting his movements."
"Let's also ignore Yami citing that he couldn't hit Licht directly because he moves at the speed of light."
Let's also ignore that he tagged two different mages moving at lightspeed, let's ignore that.
And let's completely ignore that Patry said Yami condenses his darkness into his katana to make it fast
"Let's also ignore that Yami says that he could only do this by predicting his movements."
"Let's also ignore Yami citing that he couldn't hit Licht directly because he moves at the speed of light."
Let's also ignore that he tagged two different mages moving at lightspeed, let's ignore that.
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USklaverei seems to be making more sense.
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https://imgur.com/a/vg3bwLR
When there is such a small distance, even with prediction you have to be able to move faster than the the attack itself in order to block it. Sure his reactions might not be up there, but his combat speed would have to.
When there is such a small distance, even with prediction you have to be able to move faster than the the attack itself in order to block it. Sure his reactions might not be up there, but his combat speed would have to.
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Duedate, Licht's projectiles are not the speed of light, only his Divine Ray.
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And there is no reason to believe it's only down to the divine ray. Just Licht's base attacks was already noted to be too fast for the likes of gauche with his mirror magic to see, who would then go on to reflect his lightspeed attack right back at Patri.
How would Gauche know this attack was lightspeed when he only ever got hit with a base attack from Patri?
How would Gauche know this attack was lightspeed when he only ever got hit with a base attack from Patri?
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The divine ray, his fastest spell is noted to be light speed.
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He got cut by it, literally in the image linked he's shown his shoulder getting cut by it.
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There is no reason ?
- Licht mentions that it is his best attack and that it is a speed at which Yami cannot dodge
- Gauche says that he saw nothing, that it was the speed of light
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You don't think it is funny that they describe Light Magic as having "Absolute Speed" yet apparently almost all major characters in Black Clover are FTL? Clearly there's something fishy with the ratings.
If the characters were fighting at FTL the whole time, why would he describe his Ray of Divine Punishment as "Speed you'll never avoid"?
If the characters were fighting at FTL the whole time, why would he describe his Ray of Divine Punishment as "Speed you'll never avoid"?
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Yes, there is a lot wrong.
After changing the forum, I intend to review the work.
After changing the forum, I intend to review the work.
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It will probably take quite a long while to switch forum though, so since this is rather important, maybe you can handle the revision now, and save the thread for reference via the Wayback Machine Internet Archive? At least as long as the revision is rather straightforward.
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I see the points of both sides and I'm currently neutral though I'm leading towards Klav.
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Yes, but Gauche also didn't see anything earlier when he got hit by Patti's first attack, he's said exactly that. So once again, only having experienced the base attacks, why would he assume that this attack is Lightspeed? And the reason Yami can't dodge it not only had to do with it's speed but it's size. Yami hadn't been dodging his attacks but blocking them for a majority of this fight. Licht says all of this as he charges up the attack
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Because he now stated that it was the speed of light, and he did not react to the attacks before, it just shows that this is a gigantic inconsistency.
Yes, it's not just about speed, however, Licht's emphasis on speed and that this is his best attack.
Yes, it's not just about speed, however, Licht's emphasis on speed and that this is his best attack.
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Damage3245 said:
????Yeah no buddy. These same light magic users literally get speed boosts which multiplies the speed. So no just because light speed is stated to be the fastest doesn't mean characters can't be faster.
This is literally shonen fiction in the first place. It's inconsistent in the first place to keep them at light speed when we have feats and multipliers proving other wise.
This was just a bad argument
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> It's inconsistent in the first place to keep them at light speed when we have feats and multipliers proving other wise.
You're right; they should be lower. Lots of the characters are rated too highly.
You're right; they should be lower. Lots of the characters are rated too highly.
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I'm honestly not entirely sure what's being argued here. But....honestly, I think nothing changes.
We have both Patry and his magic being explicitly described/stated as having the property of/moving at 'absolute speed' on literally numerous occasion (this such honestly suffice) , we then have said magic mostly adhering to certainproperties of light such as being reflected by a mirror. Then you have numerous charatacters reacting to such.... I fail to see how this discredits anything really.
What I might agree with is that too much character might be light speed?
We have both Patry and his magic being explicitly described/stated as having the property of/moving at 'absolute speed' on literally numerous occasion (this such honestly suffice) , we then have said magic mostly adhering to certainproperties of light such as being reflected by a mirror. Then you have numerous charatacters reacting to such.... I fail to see how this discredits anything really.
What I might agree with is that too much character might be light speed?
