Bill vs. Demigra

[DMB_1]

Yeah, but apparently, Demigra'sessence gets spread once he's dead, which may be dangerous for Bill.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Bill rarely kills, he is a ****** and would prefer things like swapping demigra's face

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

How impressive is Demigra's mindhax?

Better than babidi, who affects several people at once.

That sounds unimpressive, and is an absolute low-ball, but it's better than Bill's stuff.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@DMB What does the essence do?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Bill rarely kills, he is a ****** and would prefer things like swapping demigra's face

I highly doubt he would prefer to wait for a week instead of killing.

And doesn't he resist transmutation?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

How impressive is Demigra's mindhax?

Better than babidi, who affects several people at once.
That sounds unimpressive, and is an absolute low-ball, but it's better than Bill's stuff.

Is it above Bill's resistance to mindhax?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yes.

 

[DMB_1]

@DMB What does the essence do?

Corrupt people.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

No, Demigra doesen't resist transmutation

 

[Quantu]

If it's above Bills resistance then he controls him. I vote Demigra in that case.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I guess I will have to make a crt to clarify his mindhax.

Or remove it if you take Reddit as canon.


And I guess I also should do 2-A stuff... since his only reasoning right now is being a danger to it...

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Now I wonder how this guy feels lol

 

[BlackPAIN99]

Isn't Demigra's Mind Hax passive? That shouldn't make it better for Bill.

especially it still works even if he's "dead".

I also vote for Demigra as his Mind Hax is a pain.

 

[Quantu]

Not passive, but he starts off with it.

 

[Seventy96]

Now I wonder how this guy feels lol

I don't care

 

[SSBXeno573]

Okay, Supervillain Mode on Infinite Zamasu needs to be clarified. There's two stages of it. The First Stage sees the targeted individual take on a white and black aura with glowing hot pink eyes, throughout the length of the fight. The First Stage acts as a power-up rather than a transformation. The Second Stage sees the targeted individual's body change color to a white and blueish hue, they have glowing hot pink eyes and a pink time breaker symbol on their foreheads. The Second Stage acts as a transformed state.

Infinite Zamasu was only affected by the first stage. He was never mind controlled.

All you said was correct except saying first stage isn't mind control. It has direct feats of mind control. In infinite history we see Fu use stage one on Videl and she immediately became more aggressive and even turned on Future Warrior and Whis.

Dabura also mind-controlled Jiren with stage 1 to join up with black and Zamasu. So yeah... 4-D Mind Manip is pretty legit.

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqy83rcc5Ak&t=65m#

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

You're right upon further analysis. I'll take that L. Still, Infinite Zamasu hasn't shown being mind controlled, only amplified.

 

[Quantu]

Bill's resistance is nothing short of tragic I heard, so 4D or not it should still do the trick.

 

[SSBXeno573]

Supervillain Mode in and of itself is Mind Manip. They go hand in hand. Supervillain can vary from changing some's temper/morals/ motives (as shown in videl, android 13 and android 16) to straight up brainwashing (Jiren).

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Now I wonder how this guy feels lol

I don't care

https://youtu.be/VEx5hNYeZtY

 

[QrowBarr]

Do you smell that?

...

It's a smell... of another loss.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

There is a good chance 2-A bill will be no more....

But he shall keep his loss streak until then.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

There is a good chance 2-A bill will be no more....
But he shall keep his loss streak until then.

Is he getting downgraded?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

His only reasoning is being a danger to the multiverse. Many think, with me and dargoo included, that that is a flimsy reasoning.

4-B Bolas was a threat to the multiverse for the simple fact that he could travel between universes for exemple.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

So he will become 2-B?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Why would he be 2-B..? He would have no feat beyond maybe low 2-C

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

RIP then. Also can I see the discussion?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

What discussion? The downgrade wasn't made yet, but he's reasoning was rejected for others.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Oh, I thought there was a discussion about this. Nvm then.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

4-A Bolas stomps Bill, let alone the 2-A one.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

4-A Bolas stomps Bill, let alone the 2-A one.

..?

What does that matter here?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I saw Bolas got brought up.

 

[DMB_1]

If Bill gets downgraded, his strongest Key will probably be "Unknow, but likely far higher (than his previous key)"

This would also affect the Axoltl, probably.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Poor Bill. Gets hit with the nerf gun and now he's facing a downgrade lol.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If Bill gets downgraded, his strongest Key will probably be "Unknow, but likely far higher (than his previous key)"
This would also affect the Axoltl, probably.

I am planning to simply fuse his last two keys instead, and simply put either "Unknown, at least High 3-A" or "At least High 3-A, possibly 2-A"

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

2-A bill will be no-more.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

But for now, he's still 2-A so this match can continue

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bump