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Bill Cipher Revision Summary

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@Antvasima, I agree that Stanford could be an Extraordinary Genius. Then, Bill should at least be an Extraordinary Genius as he shown much smarter than Stanford helping him with equations. Bill could possibly be a Supergenius via Enhanced Senses which allows him to perceive & have knowledge of infinite timelines/dimensions, and has knowledge of the past, present, and future.
 
How advanced is his knowledge of the infinite timelines and past/present/future? I think that might qualify him for nigh-omniscient intelligence after all if it is advanced enough.
 
Antvasima said:
How advanced is his knowledge of the infinite timelines and past/present/future? I think that might qualify him for nigh-omniscient intelligence after all if it is advanced enough.
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Not really sure. The only thing I know is that he can see infinite versions of himself in infinite timelines, and had foreseen events that would happen in the future.
 
Ant, he's aware of infinite versions of himself and infinite timelines. It's on the reddit thread where he states this. Additionally, the all-time sense grants him almost total knowledge on infinite timelines and infinite versions of himself. He also Knows pretty much all past and present events and significant knowledge on the future
 
Well, that sounds Nigh-Omniscient, but he did not remotely demonstrate this in practice.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, that sounds Nigh-Omniscient, but he did not remotely demonstrate this in practice.
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He has in the episode "Dreamscapers"
 
Okay. Well, I suppose that his limitations may have been plot-induced stupidity then. I will unlock the profile again, so you can change his intelligence rating.
 
Ant you need to change Bill's reasons for immeasurable. It isn't for existing in a higher plane, it's supposed to be because he has transcended time (looks down on humans for being restricted by it and it's rules).
 
I can unlock it again, so others can handle it instead.
 
I could do it. How's this sound?

Immeasurable (Is implied to have transcended the concept of time, and looks down on humans for being bound by it.)
 
"Possibly immeasurable" seems better, if it is only implied.
 
Guys, Bill is made up by mathematical probability from existing in a state of quantum uncertainty based on the amount of information found about him since he is implied to contain numbers inside his body & geometrically-shaped as well mathematics Form.

So would this give him immunity to Soul Manipulation also?
 
@Ant I'll list it as unknown, possibly immeasurable then.

@Nedge, not sure, I personally think Bill could have nonexistent physiology since everything he is, he isn't at once. But that needs more input. I'd honestly appreciate it if we could look more into the statement to find out exactly what powers it would grant Bill, instead of going: "QU = This power."
 
I do not think that we should use speculation about powers that he has not demonstrated or been stated to possess.
 
@Nedge I'm gonna say this in one of the most subtle ways possible:

Please. Do. Not. Use. Quantum. Uncertainty. As. An. Excuse. For. Any. Abilities. I. Never. Explained. Nor. Mentioned. It. Should. Be. Used. On. Thank. You.

You're throwing "from existing in a state of quantum uncertainty" in any other ability that has nothing to do with QU.
 
Magi Hussie said:
@Nedge I'm gonna say this in one of the most subtle ways possible:
Please. Do. Not. Use. Quantum. Uncertainty. As. An. Excuse. For. Any. Abilities. I. Never. Explained. Nor. Mentioned. It. Should. Be. Used. On. Thank. You.

You're throwing "from existing in a state of quantum uncertainty" in any other ability that has nothing to do with QU.
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I never said that Bill should have the ability, it was just a question asking for clarification as Bill's nature that could imply that he doesn't a have soul.
 
@Nedge Yet you decided that it was automatically good idea to use it as a reason for certain abilities it has nothing to do with + add those reasoning onto the profile anyways? I'm fine with it being mentioned on the resistance part but the Quantum & Mathmatics Manip. were supposed to have 2 separate descriptions, not mixed together.
 
@Magi

So is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread?
 
Magi Hussie said:
@Nedge Yet you decided that it was automatically good idea to use it as a reason for certain abilities it has nothing to do with + add those reasoning onto the profile anyways? I'm fine with it being mentioned on the resistance part but the Quantum & Mathmatics Manip. were supposed to have 2 separate descriptions, not mixed together.
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@Magi Hussie, my mistake. Can you get it fix if you can?
 
@Antvasima May you open Bill's page so I can add the remaining abilities for his profile? Also, I need to add the missing descriptions for them as well.

@Lightbuster Yes, since Bill Cipher displayed magic in various occasions & adding weirdness as part of its description sounds like a good suggestion for it.
 
What abilities do you wish to add?
 
@Antvasima Disintegration, Retrocognition, Empathic Sense, Telecommunications Manipulation, Death Inducement, Heat Vision, and Magic.

Another thing, its late for me, so I'll do it when I get active.
 
Okay. That seems fine. I will unlock the page. Tell me here when you are done.
 
Okay. Thanks. Should we close this discussion now?
 
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