BFDI Series Discussion Thread

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Yeah, but the budget rules of BFB only matter in that show, plus it would still be pretty useless in a fight since the only way they can do it is by bringing in random money and putting it in a laptop.

Only Announcer has a hax boost from this.

Speaking of this, the Announcer's budget cuts should be considered Plot Manipulation or Reality Warping which is not just simple BFR. As we now know being removed from the budget means being removed from the plot/being erased

The battle conditions can simply give the Announcer its fitting role. I think all it needs is be 'the host' of a show for it to work out.
Of course it's hax, I don't know why anyone can consider this physical.
I also think BFR is a tad redundant if we already have Plot Manipulation on the profile. I already revised the page, so it can be your turn now if you want to remove BFR. (And if there isn't a refute against the exclusion of that ability.)

 

[Psychomaster35]

The battle conditions can simply give the Announcer its fitting role. I think all it needs is be 'the host' of a show for it to work out.
Of course it's hax, I don't know why anyone can consider this physical.
I also think BFR is a tad redundant if we already have Plot Manipulation on the profile. I already revised the page, so it can be your turn now if you want to remove BFR. (And if there isn't a refute against the exclusion of that ability.)

He still has BFR because of the Laser Powered Teleportation Device

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

He still has BFR because of the Laser Powered Teleportation Device

We can still replace BFR via Budget Cuts with via the Sender Scoop Thrower.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

the money into the laptop isn’t a problem as money can be considered writing a number in paper(i.e. leafy‘s paper slips) and she was going to use it, but the budget was so low that she couldn’t even write anymore. Also, anyone who has control over the budget should have some kind of limited movement manipulation(if thats a thing) because it can restrict movements, and people can only do certain things while on low budget

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

the money into the laptop isn’t a problem as money can be considered writing a number in paper(i.e. leafy‘s paper slips) and she was going to use it, but the budget was so low that she couldn’t even write anymore. Also, anyone who has control over the budget should have some kind of limited movement manipulation(if thats a thing) because it can restrict movements, and people can only do certain things while on low budget

Movement manipulation is not a thing.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

cool, then idk, i mean its for sure reality warping, but who has control of it shouldn’t be hard to decide, as everybody has been seen to have an effect on the budget as seen by anybody being able to interact with announcer’s laptop. What is hard to decide is whether or not this is combat applicable.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Also if we ever make a profile for him, loser should get social influencing, as he is stated to somehow have “more fans than there are people on earth”

 

[Psychomaster35]

Thats not how Social Influencing works. You need to be skilled at manipulatIng them, but Loser never actually manipulates his fans.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

loser seems to be especially skilled at manipulating his fans(cough ep 17 and 21 cough)

 

[Tllmbrg]

loser seems to be especially skilled at manipulating his fans(cough ep 17 and 21 cough)

Eh the fact they're his fans make manipulating them easier, like call me crazy but getting your fans to do shit for you ain't hard

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Makes sense, whatever then.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

but then again, maybe? I mean having more than 7.7 billion fans And having all of them listening to you like you’re the next coming of christ should be something. And what about david? One of him is easily comparable to a contestant and theres canonically enough clones of him to make up the size of at least a whole island.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

In terms of the BFDI characters, Loser should get social influencing, but in terms of the VS Battles Wiki, Loser being described as being mainstream or having superfame does not apply. He is extremely popular among object characters, not different series. Social influencing is to be able to actually influence a character through their attributes. Yellow Face has social influencing because he is considered to have amazing skills at persuasion, for example. Loser being very popular isn't a an influencing skill, it is him being renowned for his musical performances by people who have seen it.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Should Announcer get Universal range with budget cuts? Given how he implies that the show will be no more (not just the competition, but the series as a whole) to the point everything was being reduced in animation style due to the lack of money, it could be enough to warrant a range like this.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Should Announcer get Universal range with budget cuts? Given how he implies that the show will be no more (not just the competition, but the series as a whole) to the point everything was being reduced in animation style due to the lack of money, it could be enough to warrant a range like this.

Shouldn't Announcer get Universal with reality warping?? Since he was about to remove the show.........

By the way, his match with Alex Russo is outdated due to the fact back then budget cuts were BFR and alex would be able to teleport back and kill Announcer, but now since budget cuts are reality warping, Announcer could think and erase her

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Announcer has also affected the laws of physics with budget cuts. The character should've already had universal range.

 

[Psychomaster35]

That reasoning was more so a Toon Force/Fourth Wall ability, not Law Manipulation due to him doing things illogical and how its just Leafy acknowledging real life space compared to their version of space of how they are affected by it.

Regardless, Announcer has said that BFB as the entire show would end forever, as we see everything get affected, so thats still the reasoning to upgrade the range, which I already did.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Shouldn't Announcer get a "possibly Universal" with reality warping?? Since his budget cuts were about to remove the show (Which was implied to mean the entire universe).........

This is a tier change, what is your thoughts??

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

That reasoning was more so a Toon Force/Fourth Wall ability, not Law Manipulation due to him doing things illogical and how its just Leafy acknowledging real life space compared to their version of space of how they are affected by it.

Regardless, Announcer has said that BFB as the entire show would end forever, as we see everything get affected, so thats still the reasoning to upgrade the range, which I already did.

I didn't say it was Law Manipulation, I wrote that the Announcer affected the laws of physics with budget cuts (that are a different ability). It's only range. I always interpreted the scene as it being the reason outer space in the series is different from outer space in real life.
I really don't think it's necessary to be so overly specific about how the show is being cancelled and not the competition. I think it is obvious, clarifying so much in the revision makes it look untidy.

 

[Psychomaster35]

This is a tier change, what is your thoughts??

This was done through hax and not raw power, a similar reason as to why we dont consider Bugs Bunny to be Universal by becoming animator and deleting the show

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

This is a tier change, what is your thoughts??

Not every character needs to have a tier change just because they have hax. It's not even something Announcer has used to to harm an opponent. It's literally just the quality of the show running out until it stops production. It doesn't hurt any character, it just affects everything.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

This was done through hax and not raw power, a similar reason as to why we dont consider Bugs Bunny to be Universal by becoming animator and deleting the show

I dunno, you can get AP by hax sometimes, look at Yhwach, he has Universal with the Almighty

 

[Psychomaster35]

Yhwach is not Universal, and shouldn't be to begin with because of some wank going on, so that isnt the best argument.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Yhwach is not Universal, and shouldn't be to begin with because of some wank going on, so that isnt the best argument.

He already got downgraded though. The CRT is mostly concluded

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

So what about other characters? Budget is manipulated through announcers laptop, and all characters can interact with the laptop, so that should count for something.

 

[FRIMI]

so could we say that the show's budget is part of the announcer's equipment?

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

While the announcer himself can budget cut without laptop(cause he’s the host) what i meant is that announcer is shown to use the laptop to buy and make things appear out if thin air. If other characters can affect this, then they should get the same abilities as announcer when he has the laptop

 

[FRIMI]

yeah so if it's a thing that a bunch of characters can manipulate if they have the laptop then it's equipment

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

yeah so if it's a thing that a bunch of characters can manipulate if they have the laptop then it's equipment

Optional equipment, as it's only shown once

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

So how does “3-A with announcers laptop” sound, it makes sense.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Probably so, but it should be noted it was done overtime and thus required preparation in order for this to work

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

so should somebody make a CRT to make changes or Nah

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

so should somebody make a CRT to make changes or Nah

I will

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

Coolio

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

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Question, do we have enough showings to indicate BFDI is a universe in size?? If not, the laptop and budget cuts would be 4-A

 

[Soupywolf5]

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Question, do we have enough showings to indicate BFDI is a universe in size?? If not, the laptop and budget cuts would be 4-A

Pretty sure universe sized would actually be the default assumption since nothing implies it's smaller (In fact, the BFDI universe was actually heavily implied to be infinite in size by Cary. Since in his reaction to TPOT 1, after Nonexisty grows in size, Cary says that Nonexisty could potentially grow to take up all of outer space (All of the BFDI universe) and that doing so would make them infinitely large)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Pretty sure universe sized would actually be the default assumption since nothing implies it's smaller (In fact, the BFDI universe was actually heavily implied to be infinite in size by Cary. Since in his reaction to TPOT 1, after Nonexisty grows in size, Cary says that Nonexisty could potentially grow to take up all of outer space (All of the BFDI universe) and that doing so would make them infinitely large)

That's good, I am making a CRT for Announcer to get 3-A with budget cuts, now it confirms 3-A

 

[Soupywolf5]

That's good, I am making a CRT for Announcer to get 3-A with budget cuts, now it confirms 3-A

Wouldn't that actually make the Announcer's budget cuts High 3-A?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I just remembered, would it be 3-A/High 3-A over time???? As Announcer couldn't do it by himself at once

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

cary also said on stream yesterday when asked about challenges happening the 5th dimension, he said something along the lines of “5th dimension? We haven’t even gotten to the fourth! We gotta work it up y’ know” though this was in a joking fashion. also wouldn’t destroying an infinite 3-D space be high 3-A?