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Introduction
This thread is intended to portray consistent tier 4 feats/statements for Ben's aliens along with establishment of a chain scale that would apply to all the iterations of Ben 10 (except reboot).Tier 4 feat/statement(s)
Entropy Pump's DC
According to professor paradox, if you start dropping bombs on an active entropy pump, the results could be disastrous, as in destroying reality accross several light years disastrous.Basically dropping bombs initiates the destruction to take place.
Humungousaur's feat
Let's break it down into steps:- Aggregor starts to absorb the Andromeda aliens thereby triggering the activated entropy pump to result in the said destruction.
- The portal was about to release energy as said by grandpa Max.
- As per the the UA guidebook, the portal is powered by the entropy pump to release such enormous amount of energy.
- Ben couldn't stop Aggregor in time so he transformed himself into Humungousaur and smashed the time portal to cancel out the force exerted by portal to release the energy (here's the clip). Therefore, Humungousaur's striking strength should be atleast equal if not greater than the force exerted by the portal, for the net force to remain zero.
Calculating the energy output using the same method as this accepted blog:
Er=1.5LY (since the staffs have suggested that the term several should be considered as 3LY in diameter)
Br=696340km=6.9634*10⁸m (Sun's radius)
U=5.693*10⁴¹J (Sun's GBE)
E=4*U*(Er/Br)²=9.4578*10⁵⁶J=9.4578TeraFoe (4-B)
Consistency
- As highlighted above, the feat is outright mentioned in the guidebook with proper context.
- When grandpa Max said that the pump would blow in few minutes, Aggregor said that he wouldn't care of that and would continue to absorb the aliens, implying that his durability scales to the destruction.
- Waybig who is accepted as tier 4 in this thread, overpowered Gwen without any severe damage which wouldn't have been possible if their potency had an extremely large gap.
- The script of that episode acknowledges the portal as a blackhole.
- Gwen being able to charge up Chromastone to reach nearly upto Dagon's level.
Chain Scaling
- Humungousaur smashed an overloaded Entropy Pump portal hard enough to prevent the destruction of reality accross several light years. Aggregor implied of tanking that destruction while absorbing the Andromeda aliens. Hence concluding that UAF Aliens have an attack potency equivalent to destruction of several light years. The equivalent energy value would be 9.4578 TeraFoe or tier 4-B.
- Kevin's Absorption was stated to have 1/10th of the strength of whatever aliens he absorbed and later even by Aggregor. Ultimate Kevin had all the unlocked aliens in the Ultimatrix absorbed and was shown nearly on par with Ultimate Humungousaur.
- Assigning the attack potency of all base aliens as variable X (X=9.4578 TeraFoe), along with taking in account his own strength, 1/10th of Ultimate Aggregor's strength and 1/10th of 22 unlocked aliens that account for relevant AP in the Ultimatrix and 5 Ultimate aliens along with Alan. (excluding waybig and taking his strength as seperate due to large gap). Here's how we can figure out the unknown data: X+1/10×(6X+22X+X+20X+4X+W)=10X, W=37X=349.9387 TeraFoe (4-A) where W=Waybig's AP
- Classic aliens who are 1/10th of their UAF/OV counterparts due to Vilgax getting 10 times stronger in UAF, would scale to 0.94578 TeraFoe (4-B).
- Ultimate Humungousaur being 10x stronger than his base form would put his attack potency at 94.578 TeraFoe (4-A). This would also be the same tier as Ultimate Kevin and Ultimate Echo echo due to them being comparable to each other.
- Ultimate waybig and Dagon would be stronger than base waybig hence their AP should be rated as >349.9387 TeraFoe.
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