Ben 10 High 5A Upgrade and Clockwork Speed Upgrade

[Firestorm808]

This causes circular scaling since Ultimate Humungousaur is 10x base Humungousaur, who is already either comparable or superior to these characters.


Yeah Clockwork should probably scale to everyone else speed-wise. At the very least he should have MFTL+ reaction speed since he can activate his abilities quick enough to be useable.

Where do you think is a reasonable place on the Chain for Clockwork?

Reactions should be comparable to other large and stocky aliens.

 

[Lort15]

Where do you think is a reasonable place on the Chain for Clockwork?

Reactions should be comparable to other large and stocky aliens.

If he was way slower than Diamondhead and Captain Nemesis They would speedblitz him

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Where do you think is a reasonable place on the Chain for Clockwork?

Reactions should be comparable to other large and stocky aliens.

tbh I’m not sure. Most of his speed scaling would I believe only fall under reaction speed, such as freezing Mad Diamondhead, sending the alternate Bens back to their own timelines or activating his powers against the Squid Monster (although I can see the alternate Ben moment counting as combat speed since he had to move around to target all of them). As far as combat speed is concerned he would scale to Carl Nesmith who scales to Ben, or would scale to Ultimate Echo Echo, Buzzshock and Eon if the alternate Ben moment counts. I’m kinda neutral on combat speed scaling since it puts him pretty high for how sluggish he’s consistently portrayed, but I mean Maltruant is also sluggish and still scales to Rook so idk.

 

[Lort15]

Bump?

 

[Lort15]

BUMP 5X

 

[Firestorm808]

tbh I’m not sure. Most of his speed scaling would I believe only fall under reaction speed, such as freezing Mad Diamondhead, sending the alternate Bens back to their own timelines or activating his powers against the Squid Monster (although I can see the alternate Ben moment counting as combat speed since he had to move around to target all of them). As far as combat speed is concerned he would scale to Carl Nesmith who scales to Ben, or would scale to Ultimate Echo Echo, Buzzshock and Eon if the alternate Ben moment counts. I’m kinda neutral on combat speed scaling since it puts him pretty high for how sluggish he’s consistently portrayed, but I mean Maltruant is also sluggish and still scales to Rook so idk.

Sounds about right

 

[Lort15]

Sounds about right

So you agree with clockwork upgrade?

 

[Lort15]

bump

 

[Firestorm808]

I would say comparable physical speed as as others of his species like Maltruant

 

[Firestorm808]

Physically, we can scale to Tetramands/Four Arms, I guess.

I'm told he got thrown across a stadium by a Tetramand, a member of Four Arms’ species

 

[Lort15]

I would say comparable physical speed as as others of his species like Maltruant

Okay then also do i need one more vote for speed upgrade or 2 is okay?

 

[Firestorm808]

2 Should be fine.

 

[Lort15]

2 Should be fine.

Okay then i will make the changes in a few min this crt can be closed (thank you for your comment)

 

[Lort15]

changes are done