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Ben 10 - infinite 5D Timestream proposal
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Wait, that's the reasoning here? Yeah, that won't work at all. Just existing in a presumed higher dimensional axis isn't enough for Low 1-C at all. All actions that significantly affect more than one space-time continuum breach this axis yet you don't see a mass upgrade of every 2-C to 2-A to Tier 1.
If the fundamental basis of the upgrade is just "it exists in a 5-dimensional axis because our non-canon tiering system says so, therefore it is Low 1-C" then I see little reason to continue with this thread.
If the fundamental basis of the upgrade is just "it exists in a 5-dimensional axis because our non-canon tiering system says so, therefore it is Low 1-C" then I see little reason to continue with this thread.
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That's because it is unknown and considered insignificant by default as per our tiering system in case of 2a.
Consider it non canon, fan made, wrong or whatever doesn't really matter, it's our standards and we have to go with it.
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the distance between two timelines is defined as the 5th dimension (Or a 4th spatial dimension) that separates two or more universes. Said distance is often unknown as it could be anywhere between much smaller than the Universal radius and infinite. But such details are only known to those who can travel through additional spatial dimensions. For that reason, crossing Universes is unquantifiable for speed unless details are specifically stated.
This is quoted from the Speed Page of VSBW.
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Very based
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Thats only the case of tier 2
If you prove the distance is infinite, that simply means a 2C is infinitely superior to a low 2C
And as said by planck, this logic would upgrade every single 2C, 2B and 2A to low 1C
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Doesn't apply to tier 1 as explained before, unless you think destroying 2 universes is low 1C
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Sus, there is something wrong in the reasoning. The size of the 4d timelines is just amount 0 in the 5d axis that said any amount of distance significant enough to infinite or even any finite that is significant would amount uncountably many universes or aleph2, that's low 1c.
And it wouldn't upgrade any verse, not unless the distances between said universes are shown to be calculable or known to be of significant size.
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Not unless its literally uncountably infinite
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Yes that's what I described, any amount of 5d space containing timelines if significant will be uncountably infinite number of times higher than our 4d timeline as they will always amount zero.
Look above even other ppl have described the same thing.
Universes on 5d axis will always be 0 even if number is infinite. Unless they are placed at considerable distance or number of universes is uncountably higher.
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Misleading question, i said i don't see how the evidence presented is any of those
Yes those are all tier 1 but how is the evidence presented is any of them
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Well, yes, but the amount they occupy is infinitely close to 0
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Yes, that means they will all can be arranged in a 5d space where they will have almost no gap, you see it's insignificant.
Now 3rd question, if they are arranged in a 5d axis in which each universes are seprated by infinite distance on that 5d axis, doesn't it means that if you can destroy those 2 universes then you are actually capable of destroying uncountably infinite number of universes? I mean even insignificant 5d axis can contain infinite number of universes and here we are talking about universes that are separated by infinite distance on 5d axis.
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This goes back to the "then every 2C is low 1C" issue, every tier 2 character is effecting 5d space, infinite or not
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Infinite universes with infinite distance between them don't seem as low 1C to me
But thats just me, contact knowledgeable people and see their opinion
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I am closing this thread anyway, I don't think any staff will stand as opposition here anymore, just straight disagreement with not defending their reasoning, at best I'll have to wait for days for their 2 to 3 counter replies which will yet have no substance but air words. It also has got enough meme'd since very start. Will just create a fresh thread better.
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I was told to lock this thread
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