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So much big brain energy going around how long does it even take to study all this Physical science stuff?Bro is cooking
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Ben 10 Hyperversal Scaling Thread
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I think Firestorm, he deals with most of the Ben 10 stuff.
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Looks good
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I checked the large size page, the Contumelia should have possibly large size type 10 and the Naljians possibly at least large size type 8
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Shouldn't there be a scan for this?
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I'll add the one from Alien X's page to the OP.
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That's good then.
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I changed the rating of the Contumelia's technology to better reflect the rating that the Annihilarrgh would get if my revision passes.
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No, because the Omniversal Force binds everyone and everyone is but dust in comparison. Also Omniverse > Universe.
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Omniversal force existing and binding everyone doesn't guarantee that someone can't be stronger than it, take mana as an example, even if every life form has it, doesn't mean a life form can't out class it. Also, Omniversal force exist everywhere, even in the Universe, Universes or all. also anyway, Alien X, because of all statement there's aside from greatest power in the Universe, Alien x is accepted to be omnipotent in the verse no?
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This would also imply Alien X can destroy the Omniversal Force, which doesn’t work if you don’t use the Hypertimeline argument.
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Oh well, Alien X > omniversal force, whether he can destroy it or not is the point, also that he wouldn't destroy it ever. Get over it bruda. You know what I mean? You don't have to destroy smth or being capable of destroying smth to scale above it in power. Ghost as an example? Anyway, get my boy above everything as he was.
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If you do use the Hypertimeline argument then there’s still Albedo stating that they are all dust in comparison to the OF. So at best you get a likely hyperversal for Alien X out of this.
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He went over to mention "Divine" as of smth that is not in his previous comparison, which likely, makes it clear that there are exceptions among everyone.
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Also OF is not a character but a force/energy, so he's likely mentioning immenseness of OF across existence rather than anything like "Strongest" or smth like that. I don't think we have enough context to say "dust" was comparison of power but rather it's essentiality or immensity for everything to go on. I think the same can be said for mana to some extent since we are all nothing without mana. Azmuth and likely Paradox as well, despite being aware of OF called CPs greatest power in the Universe/ omnipotent multiple times. I guess that should be enough.
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Bump
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He said that creation is devine, not that supposedly devine beings aren't dust.
Agree to disagree tbh.
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We still, either will get both at equal places, considering the statement of being greatest of everything has been made for both by same person. Or just go with interpretation that OF and being dust was not really a reference of power. But yeah, agree to disagree.
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Sorry. Been busy with stuff will respond when available.
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i have no knowledge about the series, and not interest in scaling of course, but i think this ben 10 cosmology page should get updated after that 1-B revision
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The omnipotent statements imply that he can also destroy the Omniversal Force, which is a problem if you don't use the hypertimeline argument. You already know how I feel about the greatest power in the universe ones.
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Ummm? Why that had be the problem? And we already use hypertimeline anyway. Also as said before, we take omnipotent statement for AX as being > than anything. Not necessarily to be capable of destroying everything. "He can do anything" is just implication of his reality warping and we already know it has limits in the show itself.
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Fine, I'll switch to neutral on Alien X directly scaling to the OF
OMNIVERSAL-KING
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Rex deserved this fr
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Rex should definitely get an upgrade. Though maybe not to hyperversal.
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This really happening?
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BUMP
Sougo_and_Kurumi
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When will it get nuke or get Boost?
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Give or take 6 months.
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Bold of you to assume that your scaling isn't gonna be the thing that gets nuked.
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