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Ben 10 Hyperversal Scaling Thread

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Wrong or right, but now if there is HDE in the profile due to 5-D, i guess it might be large size type 10.

Edit : Now I remember, it was only OF that was of significant size. But it would be best to leave that up to you, I was just giving my opinion.
I checked the large size page, the Contumelia should have possibly large size type 10 and the Naljians possibly at least large size type 8
 
As such the rating for the Contumelia would be Unknown, Possibly Low 1-C, at most 2-A, Possibly Low 1-C with technology. (the Annihilarrgh scales this high for being able to affect the Contumelia, unless it scales even higher, which is unclear to me since it's not possibly Low 1-C at this moment)
Shouldn't there be a scan for this?
 
Actually you know, "Forge of creation" is the source of Universes greatest powers, doesn't that means Alien X should scale above omniversal force? We have been scaling Alien X above all powers in the verse lol, not just feats of those powers.
 
No, because the Omniversal Force binds everyone and everyone is but dust in comparison. Also Omniverse > Universe.
 
No, because the Omniversal Force binds everyone. Also Omniverse > Universe.
Omniversal force existing and binding everyone doesn't guarantee that someone can't be stronger than it, take mana as an example, even if every life form has it, doesn't mean a life form can't out class it. Also, Omniversal force exist everywhere, even in the Universe, Universes or all. also anyway, Alien X, because of all statement there's aside from greatest power in the Universe, Alien x is accepted to be omnipotent in the verse no?
 
This would also imply Alien X can destroy the Omniversal Force, which doesn’t work if you don’t use the Hypertimeline argument.
Oh well, Alien X > omniversal force, whether he can destroy it or not is the point, also that he wouldn't destroy it ever. Get over it bruda. You know what I mean? You don't have to destroy smth or being capable of destroying smth to scale above it in power. Ghost as an example? Anyway, get my boy above everything as he was.
 
If you do use the Hypertimeline argument then there’s still Albedo stating that they are all dust in comparison to the OF. So at best you get a likely hyperversal for Alien X out of this.
 
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If you do use the Hypertimeline argument then there’s still Albedo stating that they are all dust in comparison. So at best you get a likely hyperversal for Alien X out of this.
He went over to mention "Divine" as of smth that is not in his previous comparison, which likely, makes it clear that there are exceptions among everyone.
 
Also OF is not a character but a force/energy, so he's likely mentioning immenseness of OF across existence rather than anything like "Strongest" or smth like that. I don't think we have enough context to say "dust" was comparison of power but rather it's essentiality or immensity for everything to go on. I think the same can be said for mana to some extent since we are all nothing without mana. Azmuth and likely Paradox as well, despite being aware of OF called CPs greatest power in the Universe/ omnipotent multiple times. I guess that should be enough.
 
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He went over to mention "Divine" as of smth that is not in his previous comparison, which likely, makes it clear that there are exceptions among everyone.
He said that creation is devine, not that supposedly devine beings aren't dust.
Also OF is not a character but a force/energy, so he's likely mentioning immenseness of OF across existence rather than anything like "Strongest" or smth like that. I don't think we have enough context to say "dust" was comparison of power but rather it's essentiality or immensity for everything to go on. I think the same can be said for mana to some extent since we are all nothing without mana. Azmuth and likely Paradox as well, despite being aware of OF called CPs greatest power in the Universe/ omnipotent multiple times. I guess that should be enough.
Agree to disagree tbh.
 
Statements for which they have been scaled above/equal to everything, including cosmology in the verse:

The omnipotent statements imply that he can also destroy the Omniversal Force, which is a problem if you don't use the hypertimeline argument. You already know how I feel about the greatest power in the universe ones.
 
The omnipotent statements imply that he can also destroy the Omniversal Force, which is a problem if you don't use the hypertimeline argument. You already know how I feel about the greatest power in the universe ones.
Ummm? Why that had be the problem? And we already use hypertimeline anyway. Also as said before, we take omnipotent statement for AX as being > than anything. Not necessarily to be capable of destroying everything. "He can do anything" is just implication of his reality warping and we already know it has limits in the show itself.
 
This really happening?
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