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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

where is the link to the thread that accepted 5-A aliens and Vilgax?
 
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Do you guys think that we should downgrade base Way Big? I mean, he shouldn't scale to Albedo's Way Big.

He stills upscales from the Conquest Ray (5-A) and Malware surviving the destruction of Galvan B (5-A), tho.

This would also impact om the scaling chain.
 
Do you guys think that we should downgrade base Way Big? I mean, he shouldn't scale to Albedo's Way Big.

He stills upscales from the Conquest Ray (5-A) and Malware surviving the destruction of Galvan B (5-A), tho.

This would also impact om the scaling chain.
I remember asking this off-site before but I was told that the Potis Altiare didn't amp Way Big despite the fact a single piece can supercharge the others and we literally see it surging with power before Way Big sends Albedo to the moon. He should scale to the conquest ray since Malware didn't even survive the Galvan B explosion, he got splattered across Galvan Prime and just regenerated.
 
I remember asking this off-site before but I was told that the Potis Altiare didn't amp Way Big despite the fact a single piece can supercharge the others and we literally see it surging with power
Ye, but I think the missing piece was just to keep the device, without that, Ben only could use it once.
He should scale to the conquest ray since Malware didn't even survive the Galvan B explosion, he got splattered across Galvan Prime and just regenerated.
Not at all.
Malware just spread all over GB, so when it blew up, he was the moon itself that was crashing onto Galvan Prime, he wasn't destroyed at all.
And you can see him tanking the energy of the Helix itself, which had the energy to destroy the moon.
 
And you can see him tanking the energy of the Helix itself, which had the energy to destroy the moon.
Idk if that part counts as a feat, but if it does then wouldn’t that mean base cast scales to it since it was normal size Third Form Malware that did that? It would give them an actual 5-A thing to scale to instead of just leeching off of Way Big, which would be pretty nice.
 
Idk if that part counts as a feat.
Why wouldn't? I mean, it's literally raw energy
but if it does then wouldn’t that mean base cast scales to it since it was normal size Third Form Malware that did that? It would give them an actual 5-A thing to scale to instead of just leeching off of Way Big, which would be pretty nice.
Idk, Humungousaur never harmed him, he was stronger, sure, but he didn't harmed malware
 
Why wouldn't? I mean, it's literally raw energy

Idk, Humungousaur never harmed him, he was stronger, sure, but he didn't harmed malware
Humungousaur could knock Malware back and make him groan in pain multiple times, he definitely hurt him.

Also why would Malware’s durability even be so much higher than his AP?
 
Season 4 ep 4 (Max's monster)

It was stated that the cause of the omnitrix transforming Ben into electric alien was Phil.

Was that an important detail ?
 
Should Ascalon be stronger than Ultimate Way Big? I mean, he was able to defeat Dagon in the past (even if he was being arrogan). Meanwhile, Ult. Way Big couldn't even scratch Dragon significantly, and Dragon was being as arrogant as he was against George during that gime.
 
He pulled him all the way to the ground and was able to cut off his tentacles, I'm pretty sure he scales.
I never said that he doesn't scale to Dagon, I said that Ascalon should be above Ben.

And, the "pulling him out of the sky" thing is mere LS rather than being more powerful. That added to the fact that his Cosmic Ray didn't even make him flinch
 
From how I interpreted it Ascalon’s power depends on worthiness, as young Azmuth said someone truly worthy of the sword would be “unstoppable” (or some other word that means the same thing, don’t remember the exact word). Past George, present George and Ben all show clear differences in power when using Ascalon, which lines up with Azmuth’s worthiness statement. Ascalon scales above Ultimate Way Big at higher levels of usage, but not while less worthy users like present George or Vilgax are using it.
 
From how I interpreted it Ascalon’s power depends on worthiness, as young Azmuth said something truly worthy would be “unstoppable” (or some other word that means the same thing, don’t remember the exact word). Past George, present George and Ben all show clear differences in power when using Ascalon, which lines up with Azmuth’s worthiness statement. Ascalon scales above Ultimate Way Big at higher levels of usage, but not while less worthy users like present George or Vilgax are using it.
This seems the most sensible outcome
 
From how I interpreted it Ascalon’s power depends on worthiness, as young Azmuth said someone truly worthy of the sword would be “unstoppable” (or some other word that means the same thing, don’t remember the exact word). Past George, present George and Ben all show clear differences in power when using Ascalon, which lines up with Azmuth’s worthiness statement. Ascalon scales above Ultimate Way Big at higher levels of usage, but not while less worthy users like present George or Vilgax are using it.
I'm sure that's not how worthiness means, and I don't remember Smith saying that "More worthy = more power".
And also we have the fact that George didn't have that much change of character, just the contexts were different, as well as Azmuth.
 
I'm sure that's not how worthiness means, and I don't remember Smith saying that "More worthy = more power".

It’s here. He doesn’t specifically say “more worthiness = more power”, however based on how someone like Vilgax could wield it and how different characters have shown different results, that seems to be the intention.

And also we have the fact that George didn't have that much change of character, just the contexts were different, as well as Azmuth.
True, however George’s drop in power between eras isn’t that big despite being notable. George can still cause Dagon pain in the present, he just can’t do enough damage to win the fight like he could in the past.
 

It’s here. He doesn’t specifically say “more worthiness = more power”, however based on how someone like Vilgax could wield it and how different characters have shown different results, that seems to be the intention.

I don't think so. The "Powerhouses" thing is the same as the Omnitrix, even Azmuth says that Ben is the only worthy enough to wield the watch, but it doesn't mean that only he can use it at his full power, it means that only he can use it correctly, and is the same as George here.
True, however George’s drop in power between eras isn’t that big despite being notable. George can still cause Dagon pain in the present, he just can’t do enough damage to win the fight like he could in the past.
That's because Dagon isn't so arrogant now, Azmuth himself claimed that.
 
I still find weird that Vlad is presumably capable of killing Alien X.

And i want to see how could Eon bypass the Omnitrix's failsafe.
 
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