Downgrade to 4C?
After thinking things through I don’t think Galvan or Highbreed weaponry should directly scale to Element X or the Entropy Pump, based on a combination of availability and how they’re activated. I think the only one that they should directly scale to is Ma Vreedle’s sun destroying rocket. That’s not to say I think Ascalon isn’t stronger than Element X, just that there isn’t any evidence for it outside of universal scaling.
I agree, especially if you consider that "being unstoppable" doesn't mean that they can tank a 4-B explosión, especially when they were so many ships, that even wiping out an entire Solar System wouldn't be enough to stop them
I don't think so either, not only for the same reason as EX, but also because that was introduced during mid OV, it is possible that she didn't have access to that tech during UAF
Definitely not.
I don't think that works either
The exact statement talks about the Highbreed having specifically too powerful weaponry that only the Galvan could counter, so I think the reasonable assumption (if them scaling to Element X was valid) would be that they had 4-B weapons and 4-B durability for their ships.
I mean Ma Vreedle has an incredibly infamous track record, is banned from and/or wanted in several systems and the Plumbers took her threat incredibly seriously. I honestly doubt she didn’t have the weapon prior to OV, however since you’re right in that it’s possible she doesn’t I suppose it could just be a possible 4-C rating.
Yup, it blowing up when nuked is just a side effect from it being a wacky space-time gizmo.
The title of “destroyer of galaxies” seems more like a “blow everything up” thing than a “wipe out all life” thing to me, however again I can see why you think differently. Also I’m not sure if they even need 4-B levels of energy to accomplish it, considering how fast everything in Ben 10 is I feel like just stellar level weapons would be enough.
Yeah iron is very rare outside of Earth, though I guess the question is how rare. On the one hand Vulkanus went to Earth for iron on every Element X-related occasion, but on the other hand he literally tried to steal Element X from Mr. Baumann. So idk if he’s the best source of difficulty.
Maybe if someone calcs the Petrosapien crystal, we could have a higher High 5-A or even a Low 4-C level.
Maybe, and Azmuth definitely knows about the crystal so that would be a solid rating. Unfortunately I ain’t a good person to ask in regards to calcs.
And Vilgax, the one who literally says "The power of that crystal belongs to me!" And "I [don't] feel the power of the cristal" says that "He never felt such power" when he lifted Ascalon for the first time
I forgor
The problem with that is thsg creating a sun using radiation (the same method that was used for his mini sun) only gives High 5-A+ (around 5 Quettatons) results, not 4-C.
Agree 100% Rouleau talks abot effort, not time.
Ah well that’s a bit unfortunate (and also means an over time version of the feat is even less impressive), still an upgrade though so that’s good. Wonder if there’s any way to upscale Atomic-X to Low 4-C or not, as he’d only need around a 1.5x boost.
I don't think so.
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a way to get High 5-A+ for Ascalon level characters based off of Atomix’s statement, as all the statements that put Malgax so high include scaling him above the Ascalon level characters. I think they’ll be vaguely over 1.46 Quettatons via the Highbreed Warship calc.
Atomix soloing Goku, Superman and Sonic depends on u
Nuh uh, Sonic is 6D
Base sonic (?)
Oh base Sonic is Low 2-C (soon maybe gonna be 2-C), so yeah I guess they’d beat base Sonic.
And that's why (among other things) i dont take that statement seriously.
What, you don’t vibe with Perfect Cell level Stinkfly? That’s crazy.
'upchuck ate the subenergy, which is 20x times the sun Uochuck 4-C+"
Tbf if you do scale the sub-energy to High 4-C then Upchuck scales with regular blasts, meaning everyone upscales anyway. That’s partly how Ben 10 characters got High 6-A/5-C.
Ik, but considering the SE 4C it's hilarious
In Omniverse just coming into contact with Iron is enough for it to explode, Ben made Vulkanus and a tiny bity of old Element X come in contact with Iron by accident due to an attack and it immediately exploded.
Yup, but it doesn’t cause the system busting unless you have all that prep for it.
I think that's less that it's common and more about Baumann's skill as a merchant that he's able to get it, which is shown during the whole episode, he even managed to make a deal with Azmuth to get him to make him a suit, ******* Azmuth.
