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Until we have enough proof that Whis actually traveled a distance spanning 4 galaxies we should keep their stats as FTL or FTL+ imo.Antvasima said:
I'll look up and see where it was actually said.
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Beerus' speed.
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I'll look up and see where it was actually said.
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I don't think they used Teleportation. Here Whis has been shown flying with his stuff.
Whis flying in space with his stuff
I am suggesting to keep combat and travel speed separate, until we get more feats...it's not making Beerus any slower
Whis flying in space with his stuff
I am suggesting to keep combat and travel speed separate, until we get more feats...it's not making Beerus any slower
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Whether they used teleportation or not it doesn't really matter. Unless someone can point me to a reliable source which says that the distance traveled by Whis spanned 4 galaxies...
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Let's wait for more input then.... I'm gonna be searching for that staement which said that "the distance traveled by Whis spanned 4 galaxies..."
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I don't trust this calc at all given it's method, but this looks like a more believable than billions of times FTL Beerus
Dragon Ball Whis flight speed
Dragon Ball Whis flight speed
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I got a better source which doesn't involve pixel scaling.
Wiki states a gas nebula isat least 2 lightyears long (upto 100s)
Speed of light = 299,792,458 m / s
Minimum distance travelled by whis: 2 lightyear
Number of second in a year: 31,536,000
299,756,458 * 31,536,000 = 9,453,119,659,488,000 meters (lightyear length in meters)
9,453,119,659,488,000 * 2 (2 ligthyears) = 18,906,239,318,976,000 meters (distanced travelled by Whis)
26 minutes = 1560 seconds
18,906,239,318,976,000 / 1560 = 12,119,384,178,830 m/s (Whis speed)
12,119,384,178,830 m/s / 299,792,458 (speed of light) = 4042
This looks good enough
Source: Question, How fast is Whis ?
Wiki states a gas nebula isat least 2 lightyears long (upto 100s)
Speed of light = 299,792,458 m / s
Minimum distance travelled by whis: 2 lightyear
Number of second in a year: 31,536,000
299,756,458 * 31,536,000 = 9,453,119,659,488,000 meters (lightyear length in meters)
9,453,119,659,488,000 * 2 (2 ligthyears) = 18,906,239,318,976,000 meters (distanced travelled by Whis)
26 minutes = 1560 seconds
18,906,239,318,976,000 / 1560 = 12,119,384,178,830 m/s (Whis speed)
12,119,384,178,830 m/s / 299,792,458 (speed of light) = 4042
This looks good enough
Source: Question, How fast is Whis ?
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One Question: Are you certain that it's a gas nebula and are you certain about the timeframe....
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Timeframe looks good to me. Whether it's a gas nebula or not is the main question
However, this is still better than the 4 galaxy claim...
It does look like a gas nebula. I could be wrong
Gas Nebula
However, this is still better than the 4 galaxy claim...
It does look like a gas nebula. I could be wrong
Gas Nebula
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I'll have to take a proper look at that later and compare it to what Whis flew... over I guess... but it does seem like it...
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I also agree with MFTL+.
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1. Why did you remove my commentRocks75 said:
2. Evidence
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Well the two lightyears distance and the 26 minute timeframe are unreasonable low ends but you could say the it was just to get the MFTL+ speed ratings set in stone...
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The worst thing is, we don't know the exact amount of distance, all we know are the time tables. Even while Whis was flying, Beerus' was kicking back and chillaxing, even eating while waiting the three minutes. He didn't even seem like he was going to move in that amount of time, and yet, he showed up in the span of at least a single minute after Whis had began to speak to and get attacked by the Leader of the Neanderthal Race.
When they began to go back, we saw them beginning to fly past planets in that particular Solar System, those planets were clustered together, but anyone who understands relative math knows that, that cannot be possible, unless they were moons, and that's even more unlikely. Thus we can surmise that it was at least an FTL+ feat.
What makes it more knowledgeable, is the fact that common sense comes into that intuitiveness (expect common sense to be one of my most specialized and prized arguments if I understand a concept well enough, because sometimes feats don't cut it with people) that their Solar System was far and away from the planet which Beerus had just blown up. Thus, they assume that it would have had to be an MFTL+ feat. We just didn't know how far away their solar system was relative to that planets Solar System.
When they began to go back, we saw them beginning to fly past planets in that particular Solar System, those planets were clustered together, but anyone who understands relative math knows that, that cannot be possible, unless they were moons, and that's even more unlikely. Thus we can surmise that it was at least an FTL+ feat.
What makes it more knowledgeable, is the fact that common sense comes into that intuitiveness (expect common sense to be one of my most specialized and prized arguments if I understand a concept well enough, because sometimes feats don't cut it with people) that their Solar System was far and away from the planet which Beerus had just blown up. Thus, they assume that it would have had to be an MFTL+ feat. We just didn't know how far away their solar system was relative to that planets Solar System.
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I Don't know why you guys find this so hard to know.
OBD's calc seems more reasonable with the fact some of OBDers are very good at math.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26376
Unless there is anything you disagree with this calc.
OBD's calc seems more reasonable with the fact some of OBDers are very good at math.
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=26376
Unless there is anything you disagree with this calc.
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Off Topic: Although I wonder for how long this thread is gonna last. We already have 249 replies (Counting this one)...
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Well, we already accepted Whis and Beerus as MFTL+, and it seems safer to use the calculation of Whis at about 4000 x SOL for now. However, the new series may change that. Would everybody else be okay with me closing the thread, or do you have more matters that you wish to discuss?
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I'm okay with closing this thread. I do believe we've reached a proper verdict that DBZ characters are MFTL+.
Off-Topic: Give me around 2-3 hours and I'll reply to the Ratchet upgrade thread. I first need to looking through all the comments.
Off-Topic: Give me around 2-3 hours and I'll reply to the Ratchet upgrade thread. I first need to looking through all the comments.
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