Beast vs Fiamma, again. (One more vote)

[Malox1696]

How DOES it know it's a threat, genuinely curious.

Not to mention the radiation isn't a threat until a few hours later when it's already set into the system.

How does holy right know how much damage does it needs to do to not kill the enemy ? How does it know a laser was fired from orbit to him and destroyed it even without knowing its location ? Etc It's magic (aka cheating) if it was an esper power u would have an argument

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Well,imma voting with Radiation FRA here for now.....

 

[Malox1696]

He blocks radiation already with holy right

 

[Schnee_One]

There's a massive difference between a projectile in the form of a Lazer and air particles that are literally harmless until hours later.

And again he has to destroy every single particle in the air before he breathes it in, without knowing he can't breathe in. And with Beast literally leveling the planet repeatedly.

And again Black Hole

 

[Malox1696]

There's a massive difference between a projectile in the form of a Lazer and air particles that are literally harmless until hours later.

And again he has to destroy every single particle in the air before he breathes it in, without knowing he can't breathe in. And with Beast literally leveling the planet repeatedly.

And again Black Hole

Once again u miss the point, holy right doesn't work on user will or perception, it only works hostile "things",he can't even chose the output, leaving this aside purication is at the base of the church and there a tons of spell for that

 

[Schnee_One]

Radiation ain't hostile until hours later tho.

Or a Black Hole

 

[Zensum]

HR auto defense would neutralize the radiation threat to him as it auto counters anything that would possibly harm him without his knowlege. He doesnt have to know the dust is intially harmless. Even if this wasn't the case he could just target the dust specifically and dispell it without doing damage to anything but it. Besides that he has any number of healing abilties whether it be symbolic magic of the right hand or grimores like Baopuzi and Momotarou which deal with curing any illiment and curse or immortality if he gets the chance.

Fiamma could also teleport and use hide presence and the beast would never find him, not even a Othinus and other beings could detect he was there, then he could use any number of long term posibilities like DT was saying. Which is why I think this is more inconclusive as it stands

 

[Malox1696]

Radiation ain't hostile until hours later tho.

Or a Black Hole

....... by ur logic touma was not hostile to fiamma cause he never reached him ?

 

[Schnee_One]

?

 

[Malox1696]

?

U are saying that for example a time bomb would work right ?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Beast for reasons above. People made good points.

 

[Schnee_One]

U are saying that for example a time bomb would work right ?

No because that's literally a bomb.....

 

[Malox1696]

I don't get ur point, they would work cause they are not a weapon or cause they have delayed effect ?

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm not getting your either.....

 

[Malox1696]

I'm not getting your either.....

Ok U said that black hole and radioactive dust should not be counted as hostile, why ?

 

[Schnee_One]

I didn't say shit about the Black Hole not being targeted, I said radiation.

And I haven't actually seen anything indicating the arm is actually that accurate

 

[PaChi2]

Right Hand fra.

 

[Schnee_One]

Zen voted inconclusive.....

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Snip

Does he go into another dimension or something?

Thinking he might die of old age in that case....

Jk.

 

[Malox1696]

Holy Right Auto Target: The Holy Right has a function which allows it to automatically target anything that it deems as a threat. This was shown when a satellite laser from Academy City shot Fiamma out of nowhere, and the holy right blocked the laser and destroyed the satellite when Fiamma waved his arm. Fiamma had no way to even know that the laser was fired at him, nor did he even know where the orbital satellite that shot the laser was located, so the logical explanation for this is that the Holy Right has the ability to auto-target threats, that even Fiamma may not know about. The Strike That Reaches Everything When Swung: This attack delivers itself right next to its target without any speed, thus allowing him to move and attack anywhere and anything at will. It is essentially teleportation.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Holy Right Auto Target: The Holy Right has a function which allows it to automatically target anything that it deems as a threat. This was shown when a satellite laser from Academy City shot Fiamma out of nowhere, and the holy right blocked the laser and destroyed the satellite when Fiamma waved his arm. Fiamma had no way to even know that the laser was fired at him, nor did he even know where the orbital satellite that shot the laser was located, so the logical explanation for this is that the Holy Right has the ability to auto-target threats, that even Fiamma may not know about.
The Strike That Reaches Everything When Swung: This attack delivers itself right next to its target without any speed, thus allowing him to move and attack anywhere and anything at will. It is essentially teleportation.

Does it have any showings against passive damage? Because if not then radiation kind of screws Fiamma over.

 

[Malox1696]

L.a.s.e.r. It's in the name

 

[The_Wright_Way]

But a laser isn't passive. It's an attack. Radiation just passively kills you.

 

[Zensum]

snip

Nah not another dimension hes still on the battfield just his entire presence is hidden. Good for sneaking up or planning he could be right there and you wouldn't be able to detect him.

 

[Malox1696]

But a laser isn't passive. It's an attack. Radiation just passively kills you.

a few post above DT already explained it, the dust can be destroyed by HR

 

[Schnee_One]

Can doesn't mean Will.

And his examples aren't anywhere near as accurate enough to show it can destroy all particles in the air IMO, as he only said "Just the dust"

 

[Malox1696]

Accuracy doesn't matter as it target by the enemy point of reference not his, and "will" doesn't matter cause HR is automatic

 

[Schnee_One]

And?

 

[Malox1696]

And if the dust is harmful towards fiamma it gets destroyed by HR

 

[Schnee_One]

The dust is not the only thing housing radiation, all the air around him is.

 

[Malox1696]

And he can blow it all way, still u are just assuming that fiamma is standing there doing nothing ? U still did not even acknowledge my points (curses/grimore/normal spells)

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Radiation is not something you can push aside... And even if he can hide his presence, Bast can still reach him with attacks and radiation overall. If not outright destroying the planet.

 

[Malox1696]

Radiation is not something you can push aside... And even if he can hide his presence, Bast can still reach him with attacks and radiation overall. If not outright destroying the planet.

He can push the dust and block the radiation, has means to heal himself, can block those attack while he attacking him and using the controller to cast other spell, stop assuming he is gonna just stand there and do nothing

 

[Schnee_One]

Can he now? Because literally the only thing I got is him blowing away Dust which is nowhere near enough, he has to wipe away from single particle of air that surrounds him and the legit closing this thing has come to wiping air particles around him is wiping out groups of enemies without damaging anything around them.

Do you have any proof it can wipe away the particles that isn't random speculation?

 

[Malox1696]

It's not random speculation the magic is just that, it's on the profile of u don't like it do a CTR and remove it, dont just remove ability of the opponent that U don't like without reason

 

[Schnee_One]

<It's magic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzVmPsqHDDQ

 

[Malox1696]

<It's magic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzVmPsqHDDQ

Ok want an explanation of magic in to aru ? I can give it to u but it will be long

 

[Schnee_One]

Grace Period has passed guys, do believe the fight is concluded

 

[Zensum]

Oh, aren't those votes based on radiation? DT and I went over why that wouldn't really be an issue in earlier posts. Just to breiefly sumarize besides HR defense, miracles of the right hand have curing capabilties and there are high level healing grimores (Baopuzi,Momotarou..etc).

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

I think most of the votes are based on repeated destruction of the world, radiation, and indefinite increase in strength via reactive evolution.

Also the healing as Donttalk said would be helpful against conventional radiation. But Beast's RFI plague isn't conventional and is certainly gonna get stronger and stronger. Not to mention he needs an opportunity but his vanishing trick won't be helpful if the enemy can keep track of him with senses and etc.

Not gonna debate what's already finished though.