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Welp, sorry if this sounds desperate, but his thread remidned me that I forgot to change BB's range.

It should be more accurate now.

Also, what's stopping BB from simply writing a physical law stating that she can't be hit or touched?
 
Well, other than the fact that most of her stronger abilities neither hit or touch BB, there is the fact that most of AoC's drains are passive, which would automatically be faster to implement / end (given they also end just as fast) than writing a physical law (assuming its by thought and not actually writing)
 
@Somebody

It's not literally writing. By her authority as the Earth Mother Goddess she can swap out physical laws and magical laws with ones of her own design.

For example, if she says, "no items for the players", anything that isn't a weapon inherent to someone ceases to work. If she thinks, "no hit detection for me", that means nothing will ever hit or affect her unless you can match her Reality Warping.
 
Also, would AoC coming from a different universe's earth matter?

Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?
 
@Monarch

Physical-Magical Law screwing =/= passive effect of Potnia Theron.

This is the ability Meltlilith used against Hakuno and their Servant, but BB lolnoped it because she didn't want Melty killing off Hakuno.

Due to BB's presence in the Moon Cell being greater, she should also have this ability.
 
I dunno.

But considering that AoC is a manifestation of UKG, the Authority is probably moot.
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean "would AoC coming from a different earth affect the physical/magical law swapping"

I mean, "would AoC coming from a different universe's earth affect BB's Authority over all things born of earth"

Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?

@Kal Gretchen isn't really Divine though. More like the exact opposite
 
@Monarch

I don't know. Nasuverse logic applies to the Nasuverse primarily. Via Verse Equalization, this would apply to everyone born on Earth (which would include Earth-born witches), but I don't know anything about PMMM.

I don't know if the Avatar of Calamity is alien enough to "not be of Earth".
 
The AoC is the manifestation of Ultimate Kriemhild Gretche, who is the embodiment of despair opposing the embodiment of hope on a 2-A level. Pretty sure that she counts as "divine" by virtue of the embodiment part, being 2-A etc. Gretchen is also not of Earth due to not being a part of the multiverse.
 
Also isn't authority causality based? AoC can resist causality manipulation on Ultimate Madoka's level (which is "administer the laws of cause and effect of the whole PMMM multiverse")
 
Just want to add something, the Earth where AoC was bown has been conceptually modified by Madoka on Multiversal+ scale. Pretty sure it's beyond BB's Authority.
 
Madoka's interference hasn't actually modified Earth as a planet, so that's probably not a factor
 
No, i don't mean that isn't Earth anymore. It just that the Earth has new, ruler, that's the closest thing I could think off.

Wait, isn't the World of Wraith (which was created by Madoka) technically a whole different world due the whole nonexistence Multiverse thing?
 
Madoka doesn't rule Earth though, she is a multiversal concept.

Compared to the old multiverse, yes.
 
Yes, she doesn't ruler it. But she is technically the creator of the Wraith World which is the world where AoC came from.

Anyway, we have reached 7 vote....you know what to do.
 
That doesn't grant AoC any particular authority though (being the avatar of a 2-A does however). Hell the AoC is a direct violation of Madoka's laws.

@DD

AoC vs "stop the spam" is next
 
Never said AoC grants Authority through Madoka. I just tried to explain that the Earth where AoC came from is not like any regular Earth.
 
Authority = Causality Based.

Law Manipulation = Not Causality Based.

She's literally rewriting concepts and physical laws to her liking.
 
Gil vs AoC should probably be removed yeah.

I'll do it when I add this one.
 
So... wait, am I just getting ignored here?

About how Passive Authority =/= Law Manipulation?
 
No.

But the passive authority would be the thing that counters the passive drain. The time needed to think "you can't hit me" is already too much and she would be dead by then.
 
@Kaltias

Why would that even be a problem when BB has knowledge of all timelines and speed is equalized?

According to AoC's profile, there is a travel time. BB can cross and set up an infinite distance between herself and AoC before rewriting the universal laws to make herself invulnerable before coming back and expunging the concept of AoC from existence.
 
Because passive >> thought. One of them wins with a thought, the other by standing still and doing nothing.

Yes, for the tentacles, which are needed to drain powers and drain more efficiently. The passive drain is scaled from the Wraiths and it absorbs life, memory and emotions.
 
@Kaltias

And BB conceptually controls life and death, fun.

By end-game BB's emotions and memories are already under threat by the Moon Cell due to her taking over it. So that's not very helpful.

You're also acting like this ability instantly kills everything.
 
This doesn't make her resistant.

Ok, still gets her soul absorbed.

Because it does if you don't have resistance.
 
It's instant kill because it works on 2-A conceptual entity, who is also an Omnipresent throughout the Multiverse. This ability also bypass Mid-Godly regen based on concept and type 9.
 
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