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BB vs Avatar of Calamity
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Well, other than the fact that most of her stronger abilities neither hit or touch BB, there is the fact that most of AoC's drains are passive, which would automatically be faster to implement / end (given they also end just as fast) than writing a physical law (assuming its by thought and not actually writing)
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@Somebody
It's not literally writing. By her authority as the Earth Mother Goddess she can swap out physical laws and magical laws with ones of her own design.
For example, if she says, "no items for the players", anything that isn't a weapon inherent to someone ceases to work. If she thinks, "no hit detection for me", that means nothing will ever hit or affect her unless you can match her Reality Warping.
It's not literally writing. By her authority as the Earth Mother Goddess she can swap out physical laws and magical laws with ones of her own design.
For example, if she says, "no items for the players", anything that isn't a weapon inherent to someone ceases to work. If she thinks, "no hit detection for me", that means nothing will ever hit or affect her unless you can match her Reality Warping.
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Yeah, that's what I figured, thanks for the specification tho.
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Also, would AoC coming from a different universe's earth matter?
Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?
Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?
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@Monarch
Physical-Magical Law screwing =/= passive effect of Potnia Theron.
This is the ability Meltlilith used against Hakuno and their Servant, but BB lolnoped it because she didn't want Melty killing off Hakuno.
Due to BB's presence in the Moon Cell being greater, she should also have this ability.
Physical-Magical Law screwing =/= passive effect of Potnia Theron.
This is the ability Meltlilith used against Hakuno and their Servant, but BB lolnoped it because she didn't want Melty killing off Hakuno.
Due to BB's presence in the Moon Cell being greater, she should also have this ability.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean "would AoC coming from a different earth affect the physical/magical law swapping"
I mean, "would AoC coming from a different universe's earth affect BB's Authority over all things born of earth"
Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?
@Kal Gretchen isn't really Divine though. More like the exact opposite
I mean, "would AoC coming from a different universe's earth affect BB's Authority over all things born of earth"
Theoretically, if Zeltrech dragged someone from another universe's/timeline's earth in the Nasuverse and threw them into the moon cell, would BB's authority still work on them?
@Kal Gretchen isn't really Divine though. More like the exact opposite
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I don't know. Nasuverse logic applies to the Nasuverse primarily. Via Verse Equalization, this would apply to everyone born on Earth (which would include Earth-born witches), but I don't know anything about PMMM.
I don't know if the Avatar of Calamity is alien enough to "not be of Earth".
I don't know. Nasuverse logic applies to the Nasuverse primarily. Via Verse Equalization, this would apply to everyone born on Earth (which would include Earth-born witches), but I don't know anything about PMMM.
I don't know if the Avatar of Calamity is alien enough to "not be of Earth".
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The AoC is the manifestation of Ultimate Kriemhild Gretche, who is the embodiment of despair opposing the embodiment of hope on a 2-A level. Pretty sure that she counts as "divine" by virtue of the embodiment part, being 2-A etc. Gretchen is also not of Earth due to not being a part of the multiverse.
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Just want to add something, the Earth where AoC was bown has been conceptually modified by Madoka on Multiversal+ scale. Pretty sure it's beyond BB's Authority.
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No, i don't mean that isn't Earth anymore. It just that the Earth has new, ruler, that's the closest thing I could think off.
Wait, isn't the World of Wraith (which was created by Madoka) technically a whole different world due the whole nonexistence Multiverse thing?
Wait, isn't the World of Wraith (which was created by Madoka) technically a whole different world due the whole nonexistence Multiverse thing?
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Yes, she doesn't ruler it. But she is technically the creator of the Wraith World which is the world where AoC came from.
Anyway, we have reached 7 vote....you know what to do.
Anyway, we have reached 7 vote....you know what to do.
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Or you could wait to see if Reppuzan wants to add anything else.
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Dat Dot said:
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Never said AoC grants Authority through Madoka. I just tried to explain that the Earth where AoC came from is not like any regular Earth.
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I have a plan for the AoC
I have a plan alright.
I have a plan alright.
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I think this would be inconclusive, as both can end each other instantly, from the start.
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Anyway, AoC vs Gil is definitely a stomp judging from this.
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Surprised this didn't turn into a ****storm.
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@Kaltias
Why would that even be a problem when BB has knowledge of all timelines and speed is equalized?
According to AoC's profile, there is a travel time. BB can cross and set up an infinite distance between herself and AoC before rewriting the universal laws to make herself invulnerable before coming back and expunging the concept of AoC from existence.
Why would that even be a problem when BB has knowledge of all timelines and speed is equalized?
According to AoC's profile, there is a travel time. BB can cross and set up an infinite distance between herself and AoC before rewriting the universal laws to make herself invulnerable before coming back and expunging the concept of AoC from existence.
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Because passive >> thought. One of them wins with a thought, the other by standing still and doing nothing.
Yes, for the tentacles, which are needed to drain powers and drain more efficiently. The passive drain is scaled from the Wraiths and it absorbs life, memory and emotions.
Yes, for the tentacles, which are needed to drain powers and drain more efficiently. The passive drain is scaled from the Wraiths and it absorbs life, memory and emotions.
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@Kaltias
And BB conceptually controls life and death, fun.
By end-game BB's emotions and memories are already under threat by the Moon Cell due to her taking over it. So that's not very helpful.
You're also acting like this ability instantly kills everything.
And BB conceptually controls life and death, fun.
By end-game BB's emotions and memories are already under threat by the Moon Cell due to her taking over it. So that's not very helpful.
You're also acting like this ability instantly kills everything.
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Sorry Kal, but I think Reppuzan is making more sense.
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It's instant kill because it works on 2-A conceptual entity, who is also an Omnipresent throughout the Multiverse. This ability also bypass Mid-Godly regen based on concept and type 9.
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