Bayonetta 1 revisions

[WeeklyBattles]

@Golden High 6-A feat for Fidelity concealing the true size of the ocean with their powers

 

[Kepekley23]

The angels are consistently enough at High 6-A to be rated as such. Bayo herself would receive a "At least High 6-A, likely higher" due to being far above them.

 

[Schnee_One]

How many Pettatons or exatons are they?

 

[Theglassman12]

@Rice what about the tsunamis and splitting the red sea? That's a couple of other feats from one of the other cardinals.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Is there an evidence for phenomenas caused by angels being world-wide? And angels could pretty much hide the ocean simultaneouly.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Controling all tide-related phenomena in the world and controlling all cloud-related phenomena in the world are High 6-A feats.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does someone wanna calc Madama Butterfly's meteor shattering feat?

 

[Theglassman12]

@Matt those do not sound like 5-B feats.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Glass

He literally said so.

 

[Schnee_One]

@Matt those do not sound like 5-B feats.

But.....

He said they were High 6A.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Weekly

Link?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does someone wanna calc Madama Butterfly's meteor shattering feat?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Or did I?

maybe

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Controling all tide-related phenomena in the world and controlling all cloud-related phenomena in the world are High 6-A feats.

For some reason I fail to see how this is true, but okay, I'll try to be cool with it.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Reb

Likely has something to do with Kinetic Energy or some other stuff. ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does someone wanna calc Madama Butterfly's meteor shattering feat?

 

[Kepekley23]

Controlling all clouds and all tides is indeed High 6-A.

 

[Kepekley23]

@Weekly

Link?

 

[Schnee_One]

@Weekly

Link?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TjlhsZMvaY

12:00

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Does someone wanna calc Madama Butterfly's meteor shattering feat?

He asked for the link for it.

 

[Schnee_One]

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://youtu.be/_TjlhsZMvaY?t=699

 

[Vsguy75]

This is the meteor shattering feat from Bayo 2

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Not sure if it's relevant to Bayo 1, Vsguy.

 

[Schnee_One]

Guys guys guys

Refresh before posting

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Not sure if it's relevant to Bayo 1, Vsguy.

It is because it scales to Temperantia

 

[Golden_Void]

Didn't know about the tsunami/wave/storm stuff.

The meteor is probably a few hundred meters in diameter, given Madama Butterfly's size .

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also, as for the Virtues being non-corporeal:

Amongst the spiritually powerful of the Middle Ages, it was thought Paradiso held for all a Divine Will, and as a result, they developed heavenly logic. The concept of the "Cardinal Virtues" was born of this logic, and classifies Paradiso's Divine Will into four broad groups. These Cardinal Virtues occasionally become manifestations of the great intentions of Paradiso, and are known as the Laguna, inspiring awe in the masses."

That and basically every angel First Sphere and up are consistently referred to as non-corporeal:

• "Valliance is a First Sphere Cherub considered particularly ascendant as a spiritual being even among the other angels. Physical shape means little to angels of this rank; they exist in a metaphysical form that demonstrates the majesty of God. The most ambitious and brave of the Cherubim, there are some sources that believe Valiance first arrived on Earth thousands of years ago, riding a comet of God's wrath that destroyed everything in its way. Valiance's sword, the Valiantium Blade, is said to have the power to cut in two anything in Paradiso or Inferno, and is prophesized to one day assist a team of over a hundred heros in saving humanity from an invading evil."

• "Joys are members of the Seraphim class within the angelic hierarchy's First Sphere. These beings have broken free of any physical conception of form and have become truly spiritual. Their body is as free as a flowing river, and it takes shape only on a temporary basis. Joys may take the shape of the human feminine form, but can also shape-shift, or even separate into multiple sentient forms, at will."

Virtues are the manifestations of concepts and any angel above the rank of First Sphere is a metaphysical being

 

[Theglassman12]

@Weekly how about her ability placement and Balder's gender problem?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ability placement i agree needs to be adjusted, and i found a few missing powers as well:

• "With limited spiritual powers, this angel is spotted comparatively frequently within the physical, human world. Dears, with their dignified faces, are surrounded by the countless childlike faces of their Decorations. Capriciously firing arrows, they are often mistaken for Cupid. It is said that one of their arrows, shot through the heart of a believer, can be as infatuating as the goddess of love."
  • Bayo is completely unaffected by Dear and Decorations' arrows. Empathic Manipulation resistance
• Resistance to Acid Manipulation as she can resist Iustitia's acid attacks
• "A biological weapon made by the God of Chaos as a means of protecting his city. It is able to freely shapeshift into countless biological creatures, accessing their signatures and morphing its liquid metal body into their form. Upon encountering an invader, Golem immediately analyzes the threat level and switches to the most appropriate battle form for their disposal. With the God of Chaos presently absent, it is still said to lie dormant, ready to obliterate those who would carelessly enter Aesir's realm."
  • Able to hit beings with Elemental Intangibility
• "A demonic bird that gathers in Inferno's Johnson Forest. It possesses the wings of a bat, head of a dragon, and tail of a snake. It visits the bedrooms of hysteric humans nightly, caws in their ears until they weaken and die, then they devour their flesh. There are some who have tried to escape from its curse, but its terrifying cyclops gaze ensnares its target as if it were petrified."
  • Resistance to Fear Manipulation
• "A demon who lies in wait for pious believers to be granted entrance to Paradiso so he can slice them apart and cast them to Inferno during their ascension. The six swords sheathed in his back represent gluttony, profanity, doubt, idiocy, rage and arrogance. Each blade awakens feelings in victims of its respective sin when cut."
  • As Bayo is completely unaffected by Sloth's swords, resistance to Mind Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation
• "A whip containing the soul of a demon who shares the same name as a flower that blooms in Inferno. Laced with thorns, it slithers as if it were alive. Those who can hear the crack of the whip can feel Alraune whisper its curse in their ears."
  • Madness Manipulation and Curse Manipulation with Alruna (Uses the same insanity curse as Alraune)
• "Shotguns containing the souls of fairies known to collect the Onyx Roses that bloom only in Inferno. Each shell fired from the guns contains the curse of the fairies' trapped souls."
  • Curse Manipulation with Onyx Roses (The description is the same for Jeanne's Garnet Roses)
• Also Shuraba has energy projection

Her resistances should scale across the board as nothing really happened that would justify her having new resistances in the second game

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I agree with Weekly.

 

[Golden_Void]

That's better received here tbh:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1778396

 

[Theglassman12]

I agree with Weekly.

On what?

 

[Schnee_One]

The post above his post \_(-_-)_/

 

[Theglassman12]

ok, well what about the weapons that arre exclusive to bayonetta 2? They shouldn't be in the same tier as her Bayonetta 1 counterpart.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I already agreed with you about separating the weapons

 

[Theglassman12]

ok, can you also help with the father balder thingy?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

So can somebody sum up the changes that should be made?

 

[Theglassman12]

Bayonetta 1 will be High 6-A along with other angels and everyone that scale to Bayo 1.

Separate the Bayo 2 stuff from Bayo 1.

make Balder a man again.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

How far into High 6-A we're talking about?