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Mundus also don't have resistance to passive mind Mori which is based on CM1 due Karma abilities inherited from Nirvana: Borrowed Power.Mori jin don't have resistant to mm3.
After Okhwangs latest upgrade Mori resists madness manip by the extension of having Okhwangs powers. Type 3 also has thisMori jin don't have resistant to mm3.
So Mori should be fine.
- Limitations: Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this. Likewise, unless there is evidence to suggest differently, beings whose physical forms are similarly complex or extreme in nature are likely to be unaffected by exposure to such a being.
Nah Mundus’ mm3 is 4-D and around 7 layersAfter Okhwangs latest upgrade Mori resists madness manip by the extension of having Okhwangs powers. Type 3 also has this
So Mori should be fine.
Then I take it back ig. But it's so stupid that something so important is nowhere to be found in the profileNah Mundus’ mm3 is 4-D and around 7 layers
Where are layers mentioned??Nah Mundus’ mm3 is 4-D and around 7 layers
7 layers was accepted in the hax layer threadWhere are layers mentioned??
kinda? you seem unsureEither way the limitations still apply. Moris omnisciences kinda covers all extreme things in existence.
useless since Mori's omnipresentpassive time travel
is useless since he's not a physical beingpassive sleep manip
resists itpassive paralysis
should resist this alsopassive mind manip
same thingpassive disease manip
what does this dopassive transmutation
if it's physical same thing if it's not idfkpassive corruption
Nah that's just how I talk .kinda? you seem unsure
Something like what? Mori definitely fits the limitations descriptionI don't think his omniscience would allow him to perceive someone like Mundus unless the verse has demonstrated something that before
Not only does Mori understand and transcend all phenomena of the world (meaning going insane for example) but he can percieve Xuanzangs true form which is incomprehensible to everyone else.understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this.
Layers don't bypass weaknesses. Like having more layers of soul manipulation won't let you bypass someone not having a souland even if he can, Mundus' MM3 will bypass because more layers
It's actually type 1 I thinkOkhwang's madness manip doesn't even have a type next to it, it seems more like madness manip type 2
Yeah except none of those can interact with his AE. MM only had the advantage of being based around Mori interacting with.and Mundus' MM3 is not his only passives
he still has passive time travel, passive sleep manip, passive paralysis, passive mind manip, passive disease manip, passive transmutation, passive corruption and the lost goes on, all of which have more layers
I was just about to reply that you also mentioned these. YeahDid you guys forget that Mundus range only scale to 2 universes. That's mean he cant deal with Mori Immo9 and LS9 on 10 universes.
Besides that, Mori Karma abilities based on CM1 on 4D level due to inherited from his final Borrowed Power: Nirvana.
It's kinda iffy. It may be both type 1 & 2. I forgot madness manipulation got types so that's entirely on meIt's actually type 1 I think
Issue is that MM would make Mori go bonkers before he can use it.Mundus don't even have resistance to CM1.
Also Mori Mind hax is passive on CM1 level, due to this.Issue is that MM would make Mori go bonkers before he can use it.
But like I said, not only should he resist but even if he doesn't he just gets healed/resurrected and Mundus takes 1000x the madness Mori had to endure instead
Besides that, Mori Karma abilities based on CM1 on 4D level due to inherited from his final Borrowed Power: Nirvana.
Does Mori transcend all phenomena of the world including transcending the concept of dimensionsNot only does Mori understand and transcend all phenomena of the world (meaning going insane for example) but he can percieve Xuanzangs true form which is incomprehensible to everyone else.
I mean, why notDoes Mori transcend all phenomena of the world including transcending the concept of dimensions
That's just fear manipulation which can be resisted through willpower. Also should just outright not work on Mori due to his emotional emptiness.Tony did and he almost shat himself despite his years killing them.
It's a package, all of the passives hitting at once, not just fear manip. Also if it could be resisted with willpower alone then Tony wouldn't have ran like hell from there given his own feats of superhuman willpower or maybe it's because it has god knows how many layers.That's just fear manipulation which can be resisted through willpower. Also should just outright not work on Mori due to his emotional emptiness.
i counted the arrows and its around 40-45 layersit has god knows how many layers.
Sure but what you described is fear manipulation.It's a package, all of the passives hitting at once, not just fear manip.
Yeah but Mori is built different lmao. Idk how good Tony's willpower feats are but Moris are pretty ridiculous.Also if it could be resisted with willpower alone then Tony wouldn't have ran like hell from there given his own feats of superhuman willpower or maybe it's because it has god knows how many layers.
I feel like this entire conversation is pretty irrelevant. None of what you're saying changes the outcome of the battle.Now, the emotional emptiness is irrelevant given that demons are not only incapable of feeling despair Dante smiled dryly. “Don't make me laugh.Who's despairing?”The Cellar grew cold.“Demons feel no despair,” Gilver finallypronounced. “You have our blood coursing throughyour veins. You're the mongrel half-breed offspring of ahuman and a demon. And you betrayed our side.”Dante's smile left his face. “That's right. So youknow I can't feel something as simple as despair.”, they actively feed and grow stronger from it and yet beings like Vol 1 Dante and Mundus by extension are capable of forcing said emotion on them.
If I remember correctly, you can add the Tags afterward, even if you forgot to include it at the beginning. I've done it before.Ah i forgot to put it in Versus Thread
Yes. You can put my vote for Mori. I thought I'd wait for more arguments, but it's been a week, so...I think this can be decided as Mori's win, even though Robo and Yeolban (and also me) didn't vote for Mori but leaned towards favoring Mori over Mundus.
Actually its already applied on Non-Smurfs list in 2-C, Mori already above Mundus.Yes. You can put my vote for Mori. I thought I'd wait for more arguments, but it's been a week, so...
Not unless 7 total votes in Moris favor are accumulatedWill this win be listed in Morijin's profile?