Battle for Top 5 High 3-A: Kratos Vs Ryouga

[Lightning_XXI]

Let's see what happens, everything under the thread rules

- SBA, Speed Equal

- Power of Hope Kratos and Zero Infinity- Personal Ataraxia Ryouga, both at High 3-A

Ryouga Akizuki

Tier: High 8-C | At least High 8-C, likely higher | High 3-A | High 3-A Name: Ryouga Akizuki, Demon Maxwell Origin: Zero Infinity - Devil of Maxwell Gender: Male Age: 18 Classification: Human, Imaginator Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 3, and 7)...

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Kratos

Kratos (Greek: Κράτος) is the titular playable protagonist of Sony Santa Monica Studio's acclaimed God of War series. Born and raised among the violent Spartans, Kratos rose through the ranks to become a fearsome general, winning many wars under his command. However, they eventually encountered...

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[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Gangsta

 

[Livinmeme]

Isnt ryuga limited 4-D whatever the hell that means or absurdly high into High 3-A?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Madman

 

[deonment]

Kratos gets erased and all of his attacks too, he also gets incapped by getting frozen to AZ and getting merked hard by ryouga merking him hard if even a single chance of kratos losing exists

 

[Livinmeme]

Kratos get clapped gg no re

 

[ATalentedMaid]

he also gets incapped by getting frozen to AZ

Can he even affect Kratos with his AZ?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Why don't you guys come to the match, then we decide.

 

[deonment]

Can he even affect Kratos with his AZ?

he can, given Kratos actually only having ae2 it seems

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

he can, given Kratos actually only having ae2 it seems

Abstract Existence (Type 1; After killing Thanatos, the primordial concept of death, he's been labeled as Death, the Destroyer of Worlds by Zeus himself)

 

[deonment]

Abstract Existence (Type 1; After killing Thanatos, the primordial concept of death, he's been labeled as Death, the Destroyer of Worlds by Zeus himself)

oh, then he he can as he has dealt with other people in verse who are living concepts and laws

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

What lvl is his concep manip? I don't see any type 1.

 

[deonment]

What lvl is his concep manip? I don't see any type 1.

reading through the profile it seems type 1

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Seems..

 

[deonment]

im sorry you want me to fully type a profile so old it outdates all typings of concepts that we have right now or have ever had, with me not even being a knowledgeable member on it, surely you jest

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Affecting living concepts isn't enough info. The evils affected the primordials who created reality as a whole and were living concepts, and Fear Zeus literally couldn't even touch kratos at all.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Yeah...enough dilly dallying.
Come to the match which Dante linked few comments ago.

 

[deonment]

Yeah...enough dilly dallying.
Come to the match which Dante linked few comments ago.

this is it though?

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Yeah...enough dilly dallying.
Come to the match which Dante linked few comments ago

Huh?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

this is it though?

Forgive my dumbass....

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

lol

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So Ryouga's profile is outdated ?

 

[deonment]

So Ryouga's profile is outdated ?

Not really, more just isn't detailed

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Affecting living concepts isn't enough info. The evils affected the primordials who created reality as a whole and were living concepts, and Fear Zeus literally couldn't even touch kratos at all.

Anyway...

 

[deonment]

Anyway...

could you show this, cause this could be an entirely different thing that what you are trying to describe

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Also does Ryu even lead with that?
And how is it delivered.
Because Kratos leads with concept manip.
Whats stopping him from negging Ryu before he does anything useful?

 

[deonment]

Also does Ryu even lead with that?
And how is it delivered.
Because Kratos leads with concept manip.
Whats stopping him from negging Ryu before he does anything useful?

he thinks and then it happens from what i have seen and he either leads with that or with basically saying you lose if there is a chance of you losing
just does
does he do it on a thought

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Fate resistance says hi.

Same Fates who can manipulate fate into causing 2C feats.....

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Both of them start with their most broken stuff ?

How unusual

 

[deonment]

Fate resistance says hi.

Same Fates who can manipulate fate into causing 2C feats.....

fate resist means nothing when it is more probability manip than actual fate, and resisting one does not mean you resist the other

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

fate resist means nothing when it is more probability manip than actual fate, and resisting one does not mean you resist the other

Fate Manipulation

Fate Manipulation is the ability to manipulate destiny itself to achieve a desired result. More subtle forms of the ability can simply nudge events in the users favor while more powerful variations can make it possible to ordain one's victory against their opponent. Probability Manipulation...

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Summary

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Fate Manipulation is the ability to manipulate destiny itself to achieve a desired result. More subtle forms of the ability can simply nudge events in the users favor while more powerful variations can make it possible to ordain one's victory against their opponent.

Types

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• Probability Manipulation
• Causality Manipulation

Fates in GoW is both Causal and Probable.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeah, I was going to say that, Probabilty Manip is under Fate Hax going by the page, Krtaos does resist this

 

[deonment]

Fate Manipulation

Fate Manipulation is the ability to manipulate destiny itself to achieve a desired result. More subtle forms of the ability can simply nudge events in the users favor while more powerful variations can make it possible to ordain one's victory against their opponent. Probability Manipulation...

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Fates in GoW is both Causal and Probable.

so you are telling me that resisting fate can let you resist a guy changing the chance of you flipping a coin heads up to 0%, I'm calling bs, you don't resist time stop by resisting time manip, your don't resist sound manip by resisting vibration manip etc etc, they may have the same effect and some are categorized under the other on the pages, but that doesn't mean that resisting one means resisting the other, otherwise reality warping or magic resist shit on most of the wiki

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

@deonment
Uhhh..not your fault. Our wiki mixxes both probability and possibilities manip into one, and names it probability.

But anyway. Did you overlook when I say Fates in GoW are both Probability and Causality manip?

 

[deonment]

@deonment
Uhhh..not your fault. Our wiki mixxes both probability and possibilities manip into one, and names it probability.

But anyway. Did you overlook when I say Fates in GoW are both Probability and Causality manip?

could i actually get the scans for that, also they are one and the same, they are both manipulating the outcome of things by changing the chance of them occuring

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

tbh, unless Ryouga has evidence of being capable of affecting type 1 abstracts based of type 1 concepts, he's not affecting kratos. Kratos also speed blitzes hardcore here too, but it's not like he even needs to.
Regardless of if speeds equal here, kratos can't be affected according to the page so he stomps, if speed is unequal then that's just the cherry.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

It's under the Top 5 thread rules, so yes it is equalized

However, some characters are also on the Top 5 considering unequal speed, so I guess it works both ways

I guess this is likely a stomp if we can't way Ryouga can affect Kratos here, and he enters the Top 5 with Unequalized Speed

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

You don't even need to equalize speed here, unequalizing it just certifies it as absolute.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

This should satisfy for now. Probability ain't affecting Kratos.

AE1 of Type 1 Concept leaves him un-interactable.

So Kratos takes Ryouga's place.

 

[ATalentedMaid]

What the others said this is a stomp for Kratos due his type 1 AE of concept type 1, meaning Ryouga couldn't affect Kratos at all.

And besides we don't exactly knows what type of concept manip Ryouga has?.