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Batman General Discussion

So do we have more feats worth calcing or do we wait for KLOL to finish recalcing Batman's current 9-A feats(he told me he will re-calc on Paint.net with better quality pictures)?
 
I mean there's dozens of feats to calc, the question is would it be worth the effort? I can think of dozens low 9-A feats.
 
Yeah there are plenty of 9-As but he's already that level so it would be useless to calc them, only 8-C ones are worth it
 
Then very few if any with none off the top of my head that are feasible to calc unless we dip into PC.
PC obviously has shit though.
 
Transcending said:
The entire Submarine is 1509 pixels long, and its actual length is 106 metres. So 106/1509=0.07024519549370443. The gun is 87 pixels. 0.07024519549370443*87= 6.111332007952286m

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In the scan the gun is 238.25 pixels high. So 6.111332007952286/238.25= 0.025650921334532156. The explosion has a diameter of 1806.41 pixels, so 0.025650921334532156*1806.41= 46.33608080791223m. Halve that and you get 23.168040403956116 which is the radius.

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Now to apply the surface burst formula of W = R^3*((27136*P+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2, where W is the yield in tons of TNT, R is the radius in meters, and P is the shockwave pressure in bars, where we generally use 1.37895 bars or 20 psi of pressure and you get 0.9994323919342994 tons of TNT.

Inverse-Square Law time. Batman's head is 62.98 pixels. The average human head is 0.23m so 0.23/62.98=0.0036519530009526836m. Batman is 815.01 pixels away from the explosion, so 0.0036519530009526836*815.01=2.9763782153064464m.

  • I = (0.9994323919342994) / (4π((2.9763782153064464)^2))= 0.008977746174778893 tons of TNT.
Lastly, we multiply that with Batman's cross-sectional area, which is 1.115; 0.008977746174778893*1.115= 0.010010186984878466 Tons of TNT

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Small Building level. Not 8-C unfortunately, yet another feat ruined by Inverse-Square Law.



Or is it?

Because while Batman was quite far from the explosion, Talia wasn't. She was only 171.51 pixels away
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So 171.51* 0.0036519530009526836=0.6263464591933947m

  • I = (0.9994323919342994) / (4π((0.6263464591933947)^2))= 0.20272826502158398 tons of TNT
Time for CA. Talia is 64 kg and 172.72cm tall. Plugging those here gives a Surface Area of 1.75; We need the cross-sectional area, which is usually 40-50% that of total surface area. I will use the middle end of 45%. That gives us a CA of 0.7875.

0.7875*0.20272826502158398=0.15964850870449737 tons of TNT

Small Building+

Not 8-C unfortunately but still a good support ig.

Conclusion: INVERSE-SQUARE LAW IS THE WORST LAW TO EVER EXIST
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No matter
 
If we're discussing PC then goddamn, there's a lot of random shit in the megathread alone.
 
Who's doing the Gotham Knight profiles?
If no one is gonna I'll do it, then drop them in like 2 years
Edit: Btw, after beating it, they're pretty solidily 9-B+ to low 9-A, maybe higher with Clayface's feats, with probably very low mach via Talia deflecting gunfire
 
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Failsafe has an 8-A statement, Batman basically says he hit him with 3 quadrillion watts of energy, that's 717 tons of tnt a second.
 
Can't link to the site on the forums, due to legal reasons ig. But it's Batman 128, the most recent issue.
"3 quadrillion watts packed into new genesis steel", proceeds to blast Failsafe with it.

I'm thinking of making a profile for him, basically says everything in regards to stats, not much guessing needs to be done.
Thinking of rendering this.
 
Lmao I ****** up, it isn't 8-A, it's a whole 1000x higher, High 7-C, 717kt, I missed a few zeroes, this ****** can fight Raiden.
 
Next issue looks like he tanked re-entry, so an 8-C durafeat.
 
Are you sure tier 7 bats isn't an outlier? Or is this for a special suit that he has?
 
Propellus said:
Are you sure tier 7 bats isn't an outlier? Or is this for a special suit that he has?
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I mean, it would be. Im not talking about Batman tho, I'm talking about Failsafe (The robot Batman himself designed to kill himself aka the contingency plan for himself if he ever went bad). Batman can't even hurt him.
 
Chariot190 said:
I mean, it would be. Im not talking about Batman tho, I'm talking about Failsafe (The robot Batman himself designed to kill himself aka the contingency plan for himself if he ever went bad). Batman can't even hurt him.
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Oh nvm then, I thought this was gonna apply to Batman physically for a sec
 
XXKINGXX69 said:
Electricity resistance =/= blunt force resistance
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In the form of a laser cannon dude. That hit him with enough force to break his outer casing, something that wouldn't happen if it was electricity and not just energy as electricity don't do shit like that 🗿
 
Chariot190 said:
In the form of a laser cannon dude. That hit him with enough force to break his outer casing, something that wouldn't happen if it was electricity and not just energy as electricity don't do shit like that 🗿
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Yeah but not all its electrical energy is converted into kinetic
 
My dude, Batman stated it like he was going to be hit with that amount of energy, before hitting him with a beam. The intent of the statement is blatantly obvious, acting otherwise is just being ignorant. Hell, you don't even know how the weapon works to begin with, in what world can you say "not all of it was converted".

There is no "he might not have used all its energy", the burden of proof is on you to prove Batman wrong now and that he was actually full of shit.
 
Hellbeast said:
Seemingly hax equipment
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You know Babel, the story arc where Batman had contingency plans for everyone, and then Superman called him out on not having one for himself?
FAILSAFE is that, Batman's contingency against himself (They flashback to Babel and that exact convo btw), which he had his alter-ego design so Batman/Bruce didn't know it existed and thus couldn't plan against his own contingency.

Batman was framed for a killing by Penguin, so his contingency was activated, and without Alfred being around to turn it off in case of false alarms, it came out, and started ******* everyone up and is hunting Batman down to kill him.
It's rolled 78% off all Batman-affiliated metahumans, it has some good feats, though most on screen showings show it exploiting weaknesses so I'm unsure about direct scaling to tier 4 (And it getting damaged by a tier 7 attack might shoot that down).

It wouldn't be optional equipment, it's effectively its own character, though goes to show how good Batman's prep is (Failsafe mentions Batman could time travel with prep btw and prevent his own creation, but wouldn't in character due to risking paradoxes).
 
Chariot190 said:
You know Babel, the story arc where Batman had contingency plans for everyone, and then Superman called him out on not having one for himself?
FAILSAFE is that, Batman's contingency against himself (They flashback to Babel and that exact convo btw), which he had his alter-ego design so Batman/Bruce didn't know it existed and thus couldn't plan against his own contingency.

Batman was framed for a killing by Penguin, so his contingency was activated, and without Alfred being around to turn it off in case of false alarms, it came out, and started ******* everyone up and is hunting Batman down to kill him.
It's rolled 78% off all Batman-affiliated metahumans, it has some good feats, though most on screen showings show it exploiting weaknesses so I'm unsure about direct scaling to tier 4 (And it getting damaged by a tier 7 attack might shoot that down).
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Ngl that sounds really cool
 
Chariot190 said:
My dude, Batman stated it like he was going to be hit with that amount of energy, before hitting him with a beam. The intent of the statement is blatantly obvious, acting otherwise is just being ignorant. Hell, you don't even know how the weapon works to begin with, in what world can you say "not all of it was converted".

There is no "he might not have used all its energy", the burden of proof is on you to prove Batman wrong now and that he was actually full of shit.
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I agree all the energy was used but its electrical energy, which isn't the same as kinetic energy. You can have higher electricity resistance than blunt force resistance, like how heat durability isn't the same as kinetic though this site treats them the same because its too late to change standards for hundreds of series
 
Lad, it was turned into a energy beam. That's how the weapon attacks 🗿
Aguywhodoesthings said:
Ngl that sounds really cool
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It's kinda cool, working on a profile for him, I'll post here when it's close to posting time and it can be discussed.
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Preview for next issue, almost certain this is a re-entry given the last issue ended with Batman falling toward earth after Failsafe and him destroyed the Watchtower. Even if it isn't, basic ablation and his weight gets 9-A.
 
8-C PC might not be a reality unfortunately, @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan's calcs don't have ISL which when we apply, the values get way lower(or we can't apply in the first place). Kep's calc didn't have ISL which me and @KLOL506 applied and it's also below 8-C.

As for Failsafe, pretty sure he fought Superman and such, that would be higher than Tier 7.
 
Me and M3X reading through PC's Batman shit and gathering feats (For everything, not just AP) so we'll see when we're done
whenever the **** that'll be
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Good luck to y’all with revising Post-Crisis Batman, that’s a huge character to get through.
 
Transcending said:
Are you sure she's not aim-dodging?
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Yeah? I don’t see how any of them would be aim-dodging aside from the first bullet she dodged in #13. For the other three bullets, as well as all the other feats, she’s only moving when or after the gun’s already been fired.
 
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