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Hello. I have intended to create this post for quite awhile now, but never quite found the time. Now that I have found some time, I can invest some of it to revise Bastard!! characters stats.
1. Angels, demons, generally anyone who has control over the Astral Plane.
The Seraphs / Angels and such are listed as Planet level, which is partially true, but they should be upgraded to Universe+' 'based on Porno Diane's statement, explanining that the Astral Plane is a 4Dimensional structure. Of course, this wouldn't necessarily apply to their physical mass, just their spiritual mass.
This would apply to Dominion Angels, Seraphs, Demon Lords and anyone who has control over the Astral Plane. I believe their DC should be laid out in such a manner:
[Dominion Angels DC]: Multi-Continental+ (Universe+ Spiritual Mass) etc.
2. Satan / Lucifer, anyone above [or comparable] to him.
As well all know, Satan was able to create a universe casually and then claimed it to be an imitation of God's work. Creating the Bastard!! verse takes a lot more energy than creating our universe, because of it's extra-dimensions, which are actually aspects of reality and not pocket dimensions like in Marvel and DC. From this, if I am not mistaken, this should be taken as a scientific 5Dimensional feat.
Also, do you recall Porno Diane's statement, elaborating on the fact that the Astral Plane is, in fact, the 4th Dimension and not time? This would essentially mean that time would have to be the 6th dimension at the minimum, with Satan having mastery over it from creating an entire space-time continuum. This is a minimum of 5 Dimensions, with the total rising when adding the concept of time.
The link I presented above, also has Porno Diano stating that magic is a power coming from "beyond the 4th Dimension", with Satan possessing such power. That's a minimum of seven dimensions, while slightly low-balling it.
According to this wiki's tiering system, 7 Dimensional characters are to be default assumed to possess Complex Multiversal Attack Potency and great space-time manipulation.
3. Dark Schneider, Seraphs [Augeides].
This part is just a continuation from my last point, discussing how Satan's tier would apply to the characters I listed above. From Bibilical references, and from statements in the series, we can confirm that the 4 Seraphs with their Augeoides matched and eventually subdued Satan, when he was in his very own Augeoides form. From this, we can conclude that:
Satan's Augeoides >= 4 Seraphs with Augeoides combined and Satan largely surpassing them individually. Michael and the Seraphs should at least be given a Multiversal, to Multiversal+ tier from this when in Augoeides. This is also somewhat consistent with the showings Uriel later displayed.
In regards to DS' Majin Form, he should be Universe+ with Spiritual Mass and Galaxy+ when in a materialized form. I have explained this in my initial point, so there should be no confusion here.
DS with DKL and Uriel with Dark Augoeides are both arguably superior to the Seraphs that subdued Satan, since the strongest of the 4, Michael was even surprised and shocked that the two generated enough power to destroy the Black Abyss. Conclusively, DS and Augoeides and Uriel are superior to the Seraphs, placing them at Multiverse+ - High Multiverse.
Finally, Dark Schneider in his Adam of Darkness was directly stated to be superior to Satan from creating Amrael, so he should be placed at the Complex Multiversal tier. With Satan's feat, I could go up to 12D (from the fact that the universe was stated to consist of a "highest dimension") but I believe you guys will pull me for inconsistency.
So, this is what DS' Attack Potency stats should actually look like:
[Post Timeskip Base] At least Planet level with Physical Mass (Universe+ with Spiritual Mass).
[Majin Form] At least Galaxy+ with boosts (Universe+ with Spiritual Mass).
[DKL] At least Multiverse+, Likely High-Multiversal (disregarding Spiritual Mass at this point, since his Physicall prowess was at this level as well).
[AoD] At least Complex Multiversal, Likely Higher.
Also, as confirmation to my original point, Uriel's Augeoides was messing with gravity and space-time manipulating it's surroundings simply from it's mass. So you just can't diss this post off ;D.
1. Angels, demons, generally anyone who has control over the Astral Plane.
The Seraphs / Angels and such are listed as Planet level, which is partially true, but they should be upgraded to Universe+' 'based on Porno Diane's statement, explanining that the Astral Plane is a 4Dimensional structure. Of course, this wouldn't necessarily apply to their physical mass, just their spiritual mass.
This would apply to Dominion Angels, Seraphs, Demon Lords and anyone who has control over the Astral Plane. I believe their DC should be laid out in such a manner:
[Dominion Angels DC]: Multi-Continental+ (Universe+ Spiritual Mass) etc.
2. Satan / Lucifer, anyone above [or comparable] to him.
As well all know, Satan was able to create a universe casually and then claimed it to be an imitation of God's work. Creating the Bastard!! verse takes a lot more energy than creating our universe, because of it's extra-dimensions, which are actually aspects of reality and not pocket dimensions like in Marvel and DC. From this, if I am not mistaken, this should be taken as a scientific 5Dimensional feat.
Also, do you recall Porno Diane's statement, elaborating on the fact that the Astral Plane is, in fact, the 4th Dimension and not time? This would essentially mean that time would have to be the 6th dimension at the minimum, with Satan having mastery over it from creating an entire space-time continuum. This is a minimum of 5 Dimensions, with the total rising when adding the concept of time.
The link I presented above, also has Porno Diano stating that magic is a power coming from "beyond the 4th Dimension", with Satan possessing such power. That's a minimum of seven dimensions, while slightly low-balling it.
According to this wiki's tiering system, 7 Dimensional characters are to be default assumed to possess Complex Multiversal Attack Potency and great space-time manipulation.
3. Dark Schneider, Seraphs [Augeides].
This part is just a continuation from my last point, discussing how Satan's tier would apply to the characters I listed above. From Bibilical references, and from statements in the series, we can confirm that the 4 Seraphs with their Augeoides matched and eventually subdued Satan, when he was in his very own Augeoides form. From this, we can conclude that:
Satan's Augeoides >= 4 Seraphs with Augeoides combined and Satan largely surpassing them individually. Michael and the Seraphs should at least be given a Multiversal, to Multiversal+ tier from this when in Augoeides. This is also somewhat consistent with the showings Uriel later displayed.
In regards to DS' Majin Form, he should be Universe+ with Spiritual Mass and Galaxy+ when in a materialized form. I have explained this in my initial point, so there should be no confusion here.
DS with DKL and Uriel with Dark Augoeides are both arguably superior to the Seraphs that subdued Satan, since the strongest of the 4, Michael was even surprised and shocked that the two generated enough power to destroy the Black Abyss. Conclusively, DS and Augoeides and Uriel are superior to the Seraphs, placing them at Multiverse+ - High Multiverse.
Finally, Dark Schneider in his Adam of Darkness was directly stated to be superior to Satan from creating Amrael, so he should be placed at the Complex Multiversal tier. With Satan's feat, I could go up to 12D (from the fact that the universe was stated to consist of a "highest dimension") but I believe you guys will pull me for inconsistency.
So, this is what DS' Attack Potency stats should actually look like:
[Post Timeskip Base] At least Planet level with Physical Mass (Universe+ with Spiritual Mass).
[Majin Form] At least Galaxy+ with boosts (Universe+ with Spiritual Mass).
[DKL] At least Multiverse+, Likely High-Multiversal (disregarding Spiritual Mass at this point, since his Physicall prowess was at this level as well).
[AoD] At least Complex Multiversal, Likely Higher.
Also, as confirmation to my original point, Uriel's Augeoides was messing with gravity and space-time manipulating it's surroundings simply from it's mass. So you just can't diss this post off ;D.