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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Robo432343 said:
does anyone remember @LordGinSama

where can i find bro
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Last time I saw him, he was saying something of this sort:

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AppleLord said:
Thanks for correcting the calculation. Rukia went from planet level to Large Planet level.
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????

Dude what
1.376 × 10³⁰ Joules
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5-CMoon29.6 Exatons to
433 Exatons		2.96x10^19 to 4.33x10^201.24x10^29 to 1.81x10^3014.62x
Low 5-BSmall Planet433 Exatons
to 59.44 Zettatons		4.33x10^20 to 5.944x10^221.81x10^30 to 2.487x10^32~137x
This is 5-C

This is also for freezing the entire Earth to absolute zero, rather than just the surface of the planet.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
????

Dude what

5-CMoon29.6 Exatons to
433 Exatons		2.96x10^19 to 4.33x10^201.24x10^29 to 1.81x10^3014.62x
Low 5-BSmall Planet433 Exatons
to 59.44 Zettatons		4.33x10^20 to 5.944x10^221.81x10^30 to 2.487x10^32~137x
This is 5-C

This is also for freezing the entire Earth to absolute zero, rather than just the surface of the planet.
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Alright, didn't know the numbers were updated. Also yes, the technique says it freezes the "earth" not the "surface of the planet". Where are you even getting that statement from? It says the frozen "earth" as in frozen.
 
AppleLord said:
Alright, didn't know the numbers were updated. Also yes, the technique says it freezes the "earth" not the "surface of the planet". Where are you even getting that statement from? It says the frozen "earth" as in frozen.
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dw just update wank it via adding the atmospheric freezing of entire planet and u got urself low 5-B/5-B rukia
 
How do you guys take Kubo's statement that Aizen didnt want to recruit Starrk early because Starrk had high reiatsu that made Aizen think it would be difficult to deal with him, so Aizen decided to recruit him later?
 
YukaSama4 said:
How do you guys take Kubo's statement that Aizen didnt want to recruit Starrk early because Starrk had high reiatsu that made Aizen think it would be difficult to deal with him, so Aizen decided to recruit him later?
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The question is why? We'd have a key for a version of Starrk we never see, don't know what he looks like, and know next to nothing about.

This fan theory was simply confirmed by Kubo, but we shouldn't add it to a profile
 
I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.
 
For the people denying that Kenpachi is insanely powerful, and way beyond Byakuya, here's Byakuya's bankai doing 0 damage to Gerard's hand:


Even less than Senju Koten Taiho, aparently, though Gerard might've been joking that it stung. This is also controlling the bankai with his hand, which doubles its speed, so Gerard can react to his 2x amped speed here.

We are not getting any Byakuya upscale, at least for his regular stats.

This is in the top 10 best failed aura farm moments:
 
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Guacamolefletcher said:
The question is why? We'd have a key for a version of Starrk we never see, don't know what he looks like, and know next to nothing about.

This fan theory was simply confirmed by Kubo, but we shouldn't add it to a profile
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I was just curious on how people interpret it here
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
For the people denying that Kenpachi is insanely powerful, and way beyond Byakuya, here's Byakuya's bankai doing 0 damage to Gerard's hand:
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Ik the wiki only treats it as a 2x amp but technically speaking, going from Kageyoshi to Senkei compresses the AP of 100 million blades into 1000, and that’s before his TYBW amps where his shikai seems to have the same volume/petal amount as his early TYBW Bankai. So at least in terms of AP, with Senkei he skyrockets to tiers beyond his regular Bankai AP, and Hakuteiken compresses all of his petals into one blade. And there’s a few characters in Bleach that get massive AP amps for compressing their power into one point/blade. Like Ichigo, Yama, Azashiro etc

Also consistent with his base/Shikai reiatsu being considered on par with base Yoruichi, base/Shikai Tokinada and base/Shikai Kyoraku but is also shown to stand next to Toshiro and Zaraki narratively when his Bankai offensive forms drastically boosts his AP in particular
Guacamolefletcher said:
Even less than Senju Koten Taiho, aparently, though Gerard might've been joking that it stung. This is also controlling the bankai with his hand, which doubles its speed, so Gerard can react to his 2x amped speed here.

We are not getting any Byakuya upscale, at least for his regular stats.
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Byakuya should scale over Renji regardless considering Renji got one tapped by Gerard literally blowing air at him, and Byakuya took at least a hit from and in the anime might stop the force of and fight Final Form Gerard when using a larger volume of Kageyoshi’s petals compared to the smaller stream he used on god size Gerard (based on the manga visuals at least)
 
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Guacamolefletcher said:
I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.
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?
 
Speaking of upgrades, am I the only one who believes espadas and pre time skip captains are a bit too lowly rated? Besides renji, zaraki and byakuya, no one trained or anything during the time skip. Additionally, we have things like starrk being strong enough to make aizen himself hesitant if to approach him. The espadas would still do fairly well against most tybw shikai captains
 
That's because most characters more or less scales from Post-Bankai training Ichigo in Shikai vs the Sogyoku or his Bankai, with multipliers being used to make up the difference and vague "At Least" being used to symbolize an un-quantifiable increase. That's why there's Espada like Zommari who's given the same rating as the confirmed weaker Dordoni, who has the same rating as the weaker Yylfordt Granz*(Edit: In res, not base), who's way stronger then Post-Bankai training Renji in Shikai, who is 39 Teratons. (Dordoni does scale to Post-Vizard training Ichigo in Shikai, but that's basically the same issue)
 
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So Kubo said that Aizen was supposed to be a Quincy or connected to the Quincies back in the day… but that storyline was dropped.

So Aizen looking like the Soul King and no backstory was a coincidence? Remember when people said Aizen was supposed to be Yhwach’s brother because he looks like the Reio?

The 2 Golden fish in Hell Arch chapter? 🤔

Yhwach the big fish…
Aizen the small fish that will thrive now…
Both of them been the connection to closing Hell?
Hell villain narrating that prolonged as a parent?
A mother!? Kubo about to make Hell villain the sexiest black female character with horns!?



 
Guacamolefletcher said:
I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.
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Nano and Shunsui can react to the light that Lille Barro sends in his Light of God form. Wouldn't this be a SOL scaling?
 
DragonZeroNova said:
That's because most characters more or less scales from Post-Bankai training Ichigo in Shikai vs the Sogyoku or his Bankai, with multipliers being used to make up the difference and vague "At Least" being used to symbolize an un-quantifiable increase. That's why there's Espada like Zommari who's given the same rating as the confirmed weaker Dordoni, who has the same rating as the weaker Yylfordt Granz, who's way stronger then Post-Bankai training Renji in Shikai, who is 39 Teratons. (Dordoni does scale to Post-Vizard training Ichigo in Shikai, but that's basically the same issue)
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ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl😭. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.
 
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ItsMeat said:
ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl😭. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.
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????? wtf are you talking about what calc is this
 
ItsMeat said:
ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl😭. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.
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Where did you get Soul Society arc Shikai ichigo being planetary lol?
 
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