Ghostimuscrime
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Think he’s talking about the flaming bird stated to destroy soul society
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Sokyoku. Fake fans.
Ghostimuscrime
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Sorry for not remembering every bleach terminology in 4K HDR 
PizzaDante67
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Wasn‘t it said to be able to destroy the Seireitei and not the entire planet or am i just remembering it wrong?
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It could prolly be FTL+ if calced atleast the first time shunsui dodged it. Because he covered a long distance before it hit him and span of the light beam was pretty wide.
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Think it was stated for both, but seretei was more consistent and the default interpretation.
PizzaDante67
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Yeah. Seireitei seems more consistent than the entire Soul Society. I remember people using this to get soul society arc characters to Universal lvl
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Sokyoku bird
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Guacamolefletcher
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The light in the original manga looks really physics accurate, while the light we have now has sparkling effects, just like everything in this new anime.
Guacamolefletcher
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bro what the f*ck are you talking about...
Stark <<<<<<<<<< SAFWY Zaraki <<<<<<<<<<<< Unohana ~ Base Aizen
PizzaDante67
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You are my heroI got you ….
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You realise the "physics accuracy" of the light is more expanded on in the anime than in the manga by dispersing in the roygbiv spectrum right? Or is that your point? Without the anime Lille's light of judgement wouldn't have been accepted
ItsMeat
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Starrk~Cien~Safwy Zaraki<Unohana<Shinigami Aizen. And zaraki was dangerous enough to have Aizen himself avoid fighting him before hogyoku's awakening. Remember how base starrk blitzed Ichigo and zaraki whike carrying orihime(so with double weight). Give the man some credit, he deserves it
Guacamolefletcher
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I’ll give you a simple NO.
He was at that level before he split, it doesn’t matter what the Hogyoku gave him, it didn’t make him base Aizen level ever. He is weaker than Yammy. Kenpachi needs to get stronger to be able to quash respira and get to Cien’s level.
Safwy Zaraki is way stronger than Starrk by a ******* mile. It’s explicitly stated that Starrk’s fangs cannot pierce his guts.
Zaraki gets incredible, one-shot level amp adaptation in just minutes of fighting. He needs to fight Unohana for 3 f*cking days to get to Base Aizen level. It’s not remotely close.
Safwy Zaraki has “no power” compared to Unohana.
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Wait it was 3 days?? Was it said in the manga?
Apollonir.Scale
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I used to use this scale 2-3 years ago, too. Man, I thought Seiretei and Soul Society were the same thing. It's like one is Japanese, the other is English.ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu
Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.
ItsMeat
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I heard some versions only talk about seiretei, but all I've read says even soul society was going to be destroyed.I used to use this scale 2-3 years ago, too. Man, I thought Seiretei and Soul Society were the same thing. It's like one is Japanese, the other is English.
Personally, I believe in infinite muken, therefore I never use the Sokyoku thing as it’d get most characters higher than they deserve
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MillenniumSunny
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do we know why Byakuya is so low right now? is it because we’re waiting on cour 4?
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Yes and no. People are still torn between whether or not he scales as high as the others based on the past 3 cours, but his potential best feats should occur in Cour 4 and depending on how much they've changed from the manga, there may not be any upgrades at all or he'll reach the same level as all the other super-high-tiers-but-not-actually-god-tiers.
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alr got it, thanks
MillenniumSunny
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check this one out too
MillenniumSunny
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I'm pretty sure I can upgrade Bleach to Multi-Galaxy with some fairly simple scans, but I'm waiting on the current CRTs to be resolved first before I post.
Guacamolefletcher
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why do yall do this shit, man. You don’t even ask for any input, then you drop 10,000 word essays we have to refute or wait before cour 4 to rule on. It’s ******* annoying.
ItsMeat
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I talked with deceived about smth like this and invited Arc to check my sandbox and give an opinion since one month ago and still got no reply. I also talked to some of my friends who are very knowledgeable bleach scalers
Guacamolefletcher
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I guess it goes for other people, send it to me too, not just Arc and Deceived.
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There’s the low end scaling metas of SS Arc Captain levels scaling to Mountain level off of Toshiro’s Shikai
There’s the mid end SS Arc Captain levels scaling to country level off the Sokyoku destroying the Seireitei, with the Espada hitting Large Country to Multi Continental
There’s the high end SS Arc scaling with Captain levels scaling to planet level off the Sokyoku being able to destroy the Soul Society and the Espada scaling from Star to Large Star with Las Noches being interpreted as a pocket dimension with the artificial Sun being equal to the real Sun, Barragan being able to Respira stars, and Shinji’s throwaway statement of CFYOW Grimmjow being able to destroy the Sun
Those are where the reasonable interpretations stop. Wank scaling metas take the Sokyoku being able to overwhelm everything in existence as Uni to Uni+
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Aizen (Bleach) vs Vergil (Devil May Cry) - Aura Farming Match - (0-0-0)
Sosuke Aizen: The Alpha and the Omega:
on Yhwach in vsbattles? 
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The only thing I can really see the anime doing is have Ichigo win under his own power more directly. Otherwise, I don't see them altering the ending by a drastic amount.
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Oh, I do believe the ending will remain closely to the same events or similar. But what I mean is like give original scenes where the Almighty is shown to have a weakness in combat. Either to KS or Ichigo’s overwhelming speed blitzing. Or even a timer.
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Since this discussion thread is in the gutter after no content for a long time, I decided to do something of a tournament of power between Bleach and God of high school characters (ranging from 4A to 3B). The match will consist of 12 matches. At the end of the matches the verse will be decided who is the winner or looser after the results or could also end up in a draw. I will be using the following characters in bleach.
I'd like to know if yall are interested in this, i don't want to create a match and basically debate by myself like last time.
- Gremmy
- Yamamoto
- Adult toshiro
- Renji
- Kenpachi
- Senjumaru
- Ichibei
- Uryu
- Hikone
- Aizen
- Yhwach
- Ichigo
I'd like to know if yall are interested in this, i don't want to create a match and basically debate by myself like last time.
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Doesn't the GOH charcthers (mainly mori and mujin) kinda stomp because of info type 2 or did things change in regards of bleach charcthers now
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I am not putting them against people they would stomp. And if there is any stomp matches the match would be disqualified.
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Info type 2 mostly protects them from basic soul hax since GoH souls are a part of their info and concept. Only really Mujin and Mori's last few keys really have info+cm hax that they utilize in combat.
I think a bigger issue might end up being the skill difference but tbh it's been a loooooong time since I've read Bleach so I might be unknowingly downplaying their skill a bit
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Think it's time for a reread now?
Specially with cour 4 coming out next year and how good TYBW anime is, but yeah thats fair
Still I really fear for how this might turn out since idt a lot of the very skilled bleach fighters scale that high so this might go be unfair
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If any one is winning in bleach it would have nothing to do with skills trust me. The ones I see turning into a skill match up would be zaraki and he has crazy instinctive reaction and he beat someone with 8000 known sword styles with coupled with AD. A renji match up might result in a skill match up too tho but I haven't decided on the match up yet maybe against Ogre.
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