BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Qawsedf234]

But does VSBW use those

Yes? All of our AP ratings are based on IRL metrics in some capacity as an easy example.

Has it been updated since then?

You can look into it, but none of the numbers I've seen suggest that they atmosphere is three orders of magnitude higher.

And yes, fair assumptions are use in all calcs.

They have to be validated assumption though

 

[PizzaDante67]

When's the next Cour dropping?

2026. Don‘t know when tho

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

When's the next Cour dropping?

next year according to Kubo

 

[PizzaDante67]

Kubo: “Kazui has the same slashing powers as Ichigo, also extinguished Yhwach’s reiatsu.”

Kazui is God Tier…



Kazui >>> Yhwach

Can‘t wait for Kazui to become the Franklin Richards of the Bleach verse

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Who is gonna tell him ?

 

[AppleLord]

does anyone remember @LordGinSama

where can i find bro

Last time I saw him, he was saying something of this sort:

 

[AppleLord]

Yes? All of our AP ratings are based on IRL metrics in some capacity as an easy example.



You can look into it, but none of the numbers I've seen suggest that they atmosphere is three orders of magnitude higher.

They have to be validated assumption though

Thanks for correcting the calculation. Rukia went from planet level to Large Planet level.

Rukia Soul Ascension Gekkasojin Ultimate Attack Calculation

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Last time I saw him, he was saying something of this sort:

Bro even had a evolved to have the strongest ocular jutsu but still refused to use mind manipulation on Ichigo

 

[AppleLord]

Bro even had a evolved to have the strongest ocular jutsu but still refused to use mind manipulation on Ichigo

Bro even had a evolved to have the strongest ocular jutsu but still refused to use mind manipulation on Ichigo

I never noticed. lol

 

[Qawsedf234]

Thanks for correcting the calculation. Rukia went from planet level to Large Planet level.

????

Dude what

1.376 × 10³⁰ Joules

5-C	Moon	29.6 Exatons to 433 Exatons	2.96x10^19 to 4.33x10^20	1.24x10^29 to 1.81x10^30	14.62x
Low 5-B	Small Planet	433 Exatons to 59.44 Zettatons	4.33x10^20 to 5.944x10^22	1.81x10^30 to 2.487x10^32	~137x

This is 5-C

This is also for freezing the entire Earth to absolute zero, rather than just the surface of the planet.

 

[AppleLord]

????

Dude what

5-C	Moon	29.6 Exatons to 433 Exatons	2.96x10^19 to 4.33x10^20	1.24x10^29 to 1.81x10^30	14.62x
Low 5-B	Small Planet	433 Exatons to 59.44 Zettatons	4.33x10^20 to 5.944x10^22	1.81x10^30 to 2.487x10^32	~137x

This is 5-C

This is also for freezing the entire Earth to absolute zero, rather than just the surface of the planet.

Alright, didn't know the numbers were updated. Also yes, the technique says it freezes the "earth" not the "surface of the planet". Where are you even getting that statement from? It says the frozen "earth" as in frozen.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Alright, didn't know the numbers were updated. Also yes, the technique says it freezes the "earth" not the "surface of the planet". Where are you even getting that statement from? It says the frozen "earth" as in frozen.

dw just update wank it via adding the atmospheric freezing of entire planet and u got urself low 5-B/5-B rukia

 

[AppleLord]

dw just update wank it via adding the atmospheric freezing of entire planet and u got urself low 5-B/5-B rukia

They will call it an assumption… ovO

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Recommend this guy's videos. He's right about 99.9% of stuff. Way better than Clyde or the cornball Bleach Youtubers.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

 

[YukaSama4]

How do you guys take Kubo's statement that Aizen didnt want to recruit Starrk early because Starrk had high reiatsu that made Aizen think it would be difficult to deal with him, so Aizen decided to recruit him later?

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

How do you guys take Kubo's statement that Aizen didnt want to recruit Starrk early because Starrk had high reiatsu that made Aizen think it would be difficult to deal with him, so Aizen decided to recruit him later?

The question is why? We'd have a key for a version of Starrk we never see, don't know what he looks like, and know next to nothing about.

This fan theory was simply confirmed by Kubo, but we shouldn't add it to a profile

 

[AppleLord]

Itachi will get red crack eyes before he tries to track her speed with his eyes to even process what he wants to do next.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Itachi will get red crack eyes before he tries to track her speed with his eyes to even process what he wants to do next.

"Orihime live through decades of her life, which only took seconds in the real world, until she died of old age within the Tsukuyomi" Bleach: Can't Fear Itachi's World

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

For the people denying that Kenpachi is insanely powerful, and way beyond Byakuya, here's Byakuya's bankai doing 0 damage to Gerard's hand:


Even less than Senju Koten Taiho, aparently, though Gerard might've been joking that it stung. This is also controlling the bankai with his hand, which doubles its speed, so Gerard can react to his 2x amped speed here.

We are not getting any Byakuya upscale, at least for his regular stats.

This is in the top 10 best failed aura farm moments:

 

[DragoZeroNova]

For anime-only, that scene is top tier. For manga readers, we're just waiting to see how much the Vizards will show off before they get jobbed again.

 

[YukaSama4]

The question is why? We'd have a key for a version of Starrk we never see, don't know what he looks like, and know next to nothing about.

This fan theory was simply confirmed by Kubo, but we shouldn't add it to a profile

I was just curious on how people interpret it here

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

A very small CRT

The only Ryuken CRT in the world and wait a minute bro it's set in CFYOW?

Giselle wants to make Ichigo her zombie ally. But Liltotto believes this is impossible because her powers are insufficient to combat those protecting Ichigo. Ichigo's entourage includes Isshin, Uryu, Ryuken, and Kisuke. The narrator states, "Lil was neither hasty nor foolish enough to step into...

vsbattles.com

 

[AppleLord]

"Orihime live through decades of her life, which only took seconds in the real world, until she died of old age within the Tsukuyomi" Bleach: Can't Fear Itachi's World

Sounds to me like this guy got trap in his own illusion. Orihime’s triangles are good mirror reflectors.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Sounds to me like this guy got trap in his own illusion. Orihime’s triangles are good mirror reflectors.

It seem like you are still under Kyōka Suigetsu

 

[AppleLord]

It seem like you are still under Kyōka Suigetsu

It seems you were the one trap in it. We were talking about Orihime but somehow you think that I am gazing at Ichigo Kurosaki or Aizen.

 

[Jo-Smooth]

For the people denying that Kenpachi is insanely powerful, and way beyond Byakuya, here's Byakuya's bankai doing 0 damage to Gerard's hand:

Ik the wiki only treats it as a 2x amp but technically speaking, going from Kageyoshi to Senkei compresses the AP of 100 million blades into 1000, and that’s before his TYBW amps where his shikai seems to have the same volume/petal amount as his early TYBW Bankai. So at least in terms of AP, with Senkei he skyrockets to tiers beyond his regular Bankai AP, and Hakuteiken compresses all of his petals into one blade. And there’s a few characters in Bleach that get massive AP amps for compressing their power into one point/blade. Like Ichigo, Yama, Azashiro etc

Also consistent with his base/Shikai reiatsu being considered on par with base Yoruichi, base/Shikai Tokinada and base/Shikai Kyoraku but is also shown to stand next to Toshiro and Zaraki narratively when his Bankai offensive forms drastically boosts his AP in particular

Even less than Senju Koten Taiho, aparently, though Gerard might've been joking that it stung. This is also controlling the bankai with his hand, which doubles its speed, so Gerard can react to his 2x amped speed here.

We are not getting any Byakuya upscale, at least for his regular stats.

Byakuya should scale over Renji regardless considering Renji got one tapped by Gerard literally blowing air at him, and Byakuya took at least a hit from and in the anime might stop the force of and fight Final Form Gerard when using a larger volume of Kageyoshi’s petals compared to the smaller stream he used on god size Gerard (based on the manga visuals at least)

 

[Specterxxxx]

I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.

?

 

[ItsMeat]

Speaking of upgrades, am I the only one who believes espadas and pre time skip captains are a bit too lowly rated? Besides renji, zaraki and byakuya, no one trained or anything during the time skip. Additionally, we have things like starrk being strong enough to make aizen himself hesitant if to approach him. The espadas would still do fairly well against most tybw shikai captains

 

[DragoZeroNova]

That's because most characters more or less scales from Post-Bankai training Ichigo in Shikai vs the Sogyoku or his Bankai, with multipliers being used to make up the difference and vague "At Least" being used to symbolize an un-quantifiable increase. That's why there's Espada like Zommari who's given the same rating as the confirmed weaker Dordoni, who has the same rating as the weaker Yylfordt Granz*(Edit: In res, not base), who's way stronger then Post-Bankai training Renji in Shikai, who is 39 Teratons. (Dordoni does scale to Post-Vizard training Ichigo in Shikai, but that's basically the same issue)

 

[AppleLord]

So Kubo said that Aizen was supposed to be a Quincy or connected to the Quincies back in the day… but that storyline was dropped.

So Aizen looking like the Soul King and no backstory was a coincidence? Remember when people said Aizen was supposed to be Yhwach’s brother because he looks like the Reio?

The 2 Golden fish in Hell Arch chapter?

Yhwach the big fish…
Aizen the small fish that will thrive now…
Both of them been the connection to closing Hell?
Hell villain narrating that prolonged as a parent?
A mother!? Kubo about to make Hell villain the sexiest black female character with horns!?

 

[AppleLord]

Matriarch of Hell - Lucilith -Yhwach’s Mom - New Breads From Hell

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I just remembered something that's really funny in retrospect. Back before we go the squad 0 fights, I remember talking to Arc and discussing how we hoped we got something like a statement of Tenjiro Kirinji's Kinpika shikai being SOL and having him fire a stated SOL beam that someone dodges or something like that.

We could never imagine how much better what we got actually was.

Nano and Shunsui can react to the light that Lille Barro sends in his Light of God form. Wouldn't this be a SOL scaling?

 

[ItsMeat]

That's because most characters more or less scales from Post-Bankai training Ichigo in Shikai vs the Sogyoku or his Bankai, with multipliers being used to make up the difference and vague "At Least" being used to symbolize an un-quantifiable increase. That's why there's Espada like Zommari who's given the same rating as the confirmed weaker Dordoni, who has the same rating as the weaker Yylfordt Granz, who's way stronger then Post-Bankai training Renji in Shikai, who is 39 Teratons. (Dordoni does scale to Post-Vizard training Ichigo in Shikai, but that's basically the same issue)

ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.

????? wtf are you talking about what calc is this

 

[Deceived3596]

Our reputation as a fandom is in the gutter at this point

 

[LordTracer]

Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system

Jesse what the **** are you talking about

 

[PizzaDante67]

ss arc Shikai ichigo=planetary=>bankai would be 10xplanetary, base ulq would be slightly above that, compareable with hollow mask bankai ichigo, so 100 times planetary. Then we go with ressurection being equal to bankai and we get se ulq being at least 10000 times planetary. Pretty sure that's solar system/multi-solar system. And it is also consistent with the story, with barragan and starrk being even stronger and vharacters like harribel only like 2-3 times weaker. It is also consistent with senju's feat(also multi solar) as that is merely her passive reiatsu

Edit: just checked the joules values, that's merely brawn dwarf lvl. Still a well deserved upgrade imo.

Where did you get Soul Society arc Shikai ichigo being planetary lol?