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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

@Arc7Kuroi, are further revisions for anyone waiting until cour 4 comes out?
All I know is Jugram for certain is waiting for cour 4 seeing as the information involving his scaling to Uryu is rather unsupported. The only piece of scaling to be made is involving Ichigo's suggestion that they both fight him. Other than that, the God-Tiers are pretty untouched to get upgrades iirc from Arc telling us.
 
Anyone has a raw copy of SAFWY novels?

I can translate and give you a full on English copy in no time. :)
 
I know Apothesis, me too. Also get his ass above Hypersonic
From just a glance, he should be atleast FTL even before the auswalhen amp, he kept up with tenjiro when he was using multiple flash step attacks. Tenjiro=Oetsu in speed at least and oetsu blitzed lille barro who should be relative to shunsui in shikai atp who dodged a ls attack while injured. Plus shunsui felt jugram would wash him when they first met back in cour 2 so It should be consistent.

I hear Arc is doing a juicy speed revision so I am looking forward to that even more than the AP revision ngl.
 
From just a glance, he should be atleast FTL even before the auswalhen amp, he kept up with tenjiro when he was using multiple flash step attacks. Tenjiro=Oetsu in speed at least and oetsu blitzed lille barro who should be relative to shunsui in shikai atp who dodged a ls attack while injured. Plus shunsui felt jugram would wash him when they first met back in cour 2 so It should be consistent.

I hear Arc is doing a juicy speed revision so I am looking forward to that even more than the AP revision ngl.
You're gonna be waiting a hot minute for that because Arc said that's coming post everything Cour 4 related
 
Quick question, why does our current calc for Las Noches' size not account for resting time? Since Nel who told us about its size does get tired, same for Bawabawa whom they use for traveling long distances who gets tired just from getting them to Las Noches (he got tired after traveling for minutes or maybe a few hours at most, while going around Las Noches would take 6 days) and we have Ichigo, Uryu and Chad who got tired and need to rest after running towards Las Noches for some time.
Ichigo can sprint for 5 days without break. Therefore he can sprint 3 days without break.
 
But his point isn't that Ichigo doesn't have the stamina, it's if Nel and her Fraccións have the stamina to run three days straight.
Nel can hop on Ichigo’s shoulder. The Fraccion have spirit energy comparable or superior to the likes of pre SS Uryu (who could train 7 days and nights non stop) and early Arrancar arc Ichigo (who can sprint for 5 days straight easy).
 
Ichigo can sprint for 5 days without break. Therefore he can sprint 3 days without break.
How does that line up with Ichigo and company running towards Las Noches but needing to take a break? Surely they weren't in Hueco Mundo for 5 days there, were they?
 
How does that line up with Ichigo and company running towards Las Noches but needing to take a break? Surely they weren't in Hueco Mundo for 5 days there, were they?
We don't know for how long they've been running, given how there's always night outside las notches and the moon is always the same
 
How does that line up with Ichigo and company running towards Las Noches but needing to take a break? Surely they weren't in Hueco Mundo for 5 days there, were they?
The speed at which he ran on the treadmill < the speed at which he ran to Las Noches. Treadmills don’t have an infinite speed limit.
 
Surely they weren't in Hueco Mundo for 5 days there, were they
So the timeline is
  • Hogyoku awakens at the end of December which is two months after Ichigo achieves a ten second mask time (Chapter 229)
  • Aizen kidnapps Orihime two months early to use her power to speed up the process
  • Seventeen months after the fight with Aizen and it's April again and the start of a new year (Chapter 424)
So April - 5 Months = November

So we know the following:
  • The fight with Aizen happens seventeen months before the start of whatever the first Monday of April was. Which means it happened early November
  • Shining states in two months the orb will awaken and states it will awaken in late December. So that means they're likely in late October
  • The gap between Chapter 229 and 422 are likely to be less than one week based on the timeline we have.
Having said that I do think its unlikely they ran for five days straight, however, it is technically a feasible thing within the given timeframe. Since they could've started running in late October and only arrive in the latter part of the first week of November. Though that does mean that all the fights happen in like one or two days with this assumption within Las Noches.
 
What was the basis of the 5 day sprint if you don’t mind me asking? Initially I thought it was some stamina statement but seeing the other replies makes it sound like it was sth else
 
What was the basis of the 5 day sprint if you don’t mind me asking? Initially I thought it was some stamina statement but seeing the other replies makes it sound like it was sth else
It’s stated Ichigo can run on a treadmill that drains spirit energy for 5 days without rest when he’s training with the Vizard. It is both a stamina thing (as doing strenuous exercise over long periods is inherently such), but it also measures his spirit energy (spirit energy would help the Vizards get a measure of his strength, etc).
 
When Nel made that statement though, it's not like she'd have knowledge of Ichigo's stamina, right?

(Not planning any revisions btw, just questioning)
 
When Nel made that statement though, it's not like she'd have knowledge of Ichigo's stamina, right?

(Not planning any revisions btw, just questioning)
Nel is surrounded by people with spirit energy comparable to that of early AA Ichigo, if not far superior, she should be reputable. No one refutes her claims either, which includes Ichigo himself, but more importantly her fraccion. Also, you gotta remember that the scene is an expository one that Kubo is using to highlight the large size of Las Noches right. There’s no narrative purpose for Nel to be lying.
 
Nel is surrounded by people with spirit energy comparable to that of early AA Ichigo, if not far superior, she should be reputable. No one refutes her claims either, which includes Ichigo himself, but more importantly her fraccion. Also, you gotta remember that the scene is an expository one that Kubo is using to highlight the large size of Las Noches right. There’s no narrative purpose for Nel to be lying.
Well, I didn't mean to imply that she'd be lying; just that her statement doesn't necessarily mean what we assume it to mean. But I'm done now, thanks for answering.
 
Well, I didn't mean to imply that she'd be lying; just that her statement doesn't necessarily mean what we assume it to mean. But I'm done now, thanks for answering.
Sure, frankly we’re still rather conservative with the on site interpretation, assuming a casual walking pace, when these characters are more than capable of running and are blatantly in a major hurry.
 
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Uryu did allat talking down on Ichigo and egoistic nerd talk just to get humbled in 14 chapters 🙏🏽😹
 
I think we should make a reio pieces physiology tbh. So many interesting things:

Own personality

Ac4 + conceptual powernull resistence

This would also massively help other characters, like aizen. In fact, for those who remember Adam's "reason destroyer aizen" thread, I am going to make a new one more detailed with things like hde. I will firstly upload it in my sandbox, so you can check it and give advices.
 
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