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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Guys give your inputs.
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Oetsu Nimaiya Pack

In this fight with elite guards Nimaiya killed Gerard and Pernida effectively. Lillie is excluded because he needs to activate his shrift and he couldn't during this battle. While for the other 2 , none of them needed and shown to activate their shrift in the later battles and regenerated from...
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Just dropped 2 at a time
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Baraggan ressurection revision

This is an old school revision. Baraggan's fundamental ability revolves around localized time manipulation which has different effect as mentioned in his profile. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baraggan_Louisenbairn He can slow down time and should be able to fast forward it even though both...
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Kūkaku Shiba - Upgrade

I believe CFYOW give some insight to Kūkaku's real strength. Specifically: Kukaku’s voice alone caused Grimmjow, Luppi to stop arguing. Hallibel even remarked that she could sense Kukaku’s strength just from her voice, calling her "strong", and Neliel agreed with her. So Kukaku is...
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Guys!!! Help me getting admods opinion on these.

Adam1396 said:
Guys give your inputs.
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Oetsu Nimaiya Pack

In this fight with elite guards Nimaiya killed Gerard and Pernida effectively. Lillie is excluded because he needs to activate his shrift and he couldn't during this battle. While for the other 2 , none of them needed and shown to activate their shrift in the later battles and regenerated from...
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Adam1396 said:
Just dropped 2 at a time
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Baraggan ressurection revision

This is an old school revision. Baraggan's fundamental ability revolves around localized time manipulation which has different effect as mentioned in his profile. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baraggan_Louisenbairn He can slow down time and should be able to fast forward it even though both...
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Maybe don’t drop 2 at the same time…
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I don’t sit in front of laptop that much. When I sat, I made both of them at a time.

Anyway, why not drop uour thoughts on nimaiya's one. I got only one admin vote.

Even my conceptual absorption for yhwach is lacking just one vote. Since you said decieved will handle the whole conceptual manipulation part, I am not bumping the thread anymore. Pretty self explanatory addition for yhwach though.
 
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Bleach: Stat Adjustments for THE Best Girl (Very Minor Kukaku Revision)

This should be very simple. Kukaku’s 6-B scaling in her first key comes exclusively from her Kido, and her physicals should be separated from that. Since she only physically scales to characters that are 7-B, her stats should be adjusted to ‘At least 7-B physically, up to 6-B with Kido’...
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Apollonir.Scale said:
When Yhwach dies, do the powers return to their owners?
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Yes. Which is kind of a weird logic. (Vollstandig doesn’t)

-Ichigo got his Quincy/hollow powers taken by Yhwach. Bankai broken.

-Orihime & Tsukishima restored it from an alt timeline.

- Yhwach still owes that power he took in the final battle.

-Once the battle is over, those powers return back to Ichigo.

Meaning, Ichigo is x2 as strong as he was in the of this arc and a nice power up touch for the next arc.
 
AppleLord said:
Yes. Which is kind of a weird logic. (Vollstandig doesn’t)

-Ichigo got his Quincy/hollow powers taken by Yhwach. Bankai broken.

-Orihime & Tsukishima restored it from an alt timeline.

- Yhwach still owes that power he took in the final battle.

-Once the battle is over, those powers return back to Ichigo.

Meaning, Ichigo is x2 as strong as he was in the of this arc and a nice power up touch for the next arc.
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It doesn’t return. What kinda deada** losic is this.

Ichigo regained his power. Not that it returned from yhwach.

If ichigo can retake his power even within few hours, it still wouldn’t be a far fetched claim considering he is a born hybrid
 
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Squad Zero Regeneration Upgrade + Resurrection

Premise: Currently, Ichibe Hyosube and the rest of Squad Zero all have the classification of Regeneration: Low-Mid. This is due to Ichibe's regeneration feat from his battle with Yhwach and Squad Zero demonstrating the same ability in CYFOW (Granted, I'm not sure they demonstrated regeneration...
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Was fairly obvious given that we knew the seal was applied automatically but it's nice to have a 100% confirmation.
 
DragonZeroNova said:
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Squad Zero Regeneration Upgrade + Resurrection

Premise: Currently, Ichibe Hyosube and the rest of Squad Zero all have the classification of Regeneration: Low-Mid. This is due to Ichibe's regeneration feat from his battle with Yhwach and Squad Zero demonstrating the same ability in CYFOW (Granted, I'm not sure they demonstrated regeneration...
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I have totally different take on their regeneration.

If they can regenerate as long as soul king palace exists, it should grant them mid godly. Since they can regenerate both soul and mind. And we do grant this level of regeneration based on the type of immortality rather than feat(for this case it's 8). And you can find numerous examples on the site.
Another Supporting evidence is ichibei can be resurrected just by calling his name.
 
Adam1396 said:
I have totally different take on their regeneration.

If they can regenerate as long as soul king palace exists, it should grant them mid godly. Since they can regenerate both soul and mind. And we do grant this level of regeneration based on the type of immortality rather than feat(for this case it's 8). And you can find numerous examples on the site.
Another Supporting evidence is ichibei can be resurrected just by calling his name.
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Like I said, someone else could probably upgrade higher. However, I have no proof at the moment and I don't want to try for anything higher. If you think they can be upgraded to mid godly, you can make your own crt after
 
Johner2133451 said:
I think he could give input in the thread
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He could, but he didn't. So idk. If he wants to, with scans or statements, I could add it as a second end, but I don't want to add something that's possibly a matter of interpretation. He could also show me these numerous examples on the site, since I most likely know none of them.
 
DragonZeroNova said:
He could, but he didn't. So idk. If he wants to, with scans or statements, I could add it as a second end, but I don't want to add something that's possibly a matter of interpretation. He could also show me these numerous examples on the site, since I most likely know none of them.
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You will have a lot of them who has immortality type 8. But barely has any high end feat. It's solely based on reliance.

If I need to give an example the one instantly popped into my mind is madhara. Who only regenerated after getting sliced in half
 
Adam1396 said:
You will have a lot of them who has immortality type 8. But barely has any high end feat. It's solely based on reliance.

If I need to give an example the one instantly popped into my mind is madhara. Who only regenerated after getting sliced in half
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Assuming you mean Madara, he only has Low-Godly on Edo Tensei. While some of the scans seem to have disappeared, assuming they are legitimate, there are clear statements as to why. In addition, Edo Tensei's have also shown to survive the complete destruction of their body, which is at least Mid-High, with the scan in question making it pretty clear it's either High or Low-Godly.
If you have scans similar to this or statements that Squad Zero can regenerate from similar circumstances, then just post them (For the record, I personally believe Squad Zero has higher then Mid regeneration, but I have no scans to prove that and there's also the no-limit fallacy, which means I can't just assume that they can regenerate from anything without scans to back it up.)

If you're talking about Revived Madara, he only has Low-Mid. If you're talking about Juubidara, he A: Has Low-Mid regen and B: Doesn't have Immortality Type 8, only 1 and 3.

If Madhara is someone else, then I can't find him
 
Adam1396 said:
It doesn’t return. What kinda deada** losic is this.

Ichigo regained his power. Not that it returned from yhwach.

If ichigo can retake his power even within few hours, it still wouldn’t be a far fetched claim considering he is a born hybrid
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- Ichigo got restored what was taken by Yhwach.

- Yhwach still got the power he stole from Ichigo.

- Yhwach defeated, all Quincies got their powers back that were taken by Yhwach.

That includes Ichigo, a Quincy.

Do I need to explain it easier in a 101 for dummies? Read the novels.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
There is nothing in there that’s planet level, what crack are you smoking
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Do a calculation for it.

- We have huge mountains next to Ichigo walking up the stairs from Cour 2 leading to Ichibei’s training hub in his city.

- Soul King main palace is bigger than the cities according the acceptable size calc.

- Ichigo’s Getsuga Jushisho explosion is at least x2-x3 times bigger than the Soul King palace on that shot.

That Getsuga Jushisho is dwarfing mountains, if you calculate it like I did with the VSBW rules it would come out as Planet level feat.
 
AppleLord said:
Do a calculation for it.

- We have huge mountains next to Ichigo walking up the stairs from Cour 2 leading to Ichibei’s training hub in his city.

- Soul King main palace is bigger than the cities according the acceptable size calc.

- Ichigo’s Getsuga Jushisho explosion is at least x2-x3 times bigger than the Soul King palace on that shot.

That Getsuga Jushisho is dwarfing mountains, if you calculate it like I did with the VSBW rules it would come out as Planet level feat.
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Drop the calc
 
What’s the acceptable size for the royal palace? Is it the same as sereitei because of the wall protecting the royal king palace statement?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Drop the calc
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You can find a calc by Endvez from SpaceBattles here.

The mountain region (lengthwise) therefore is 9.1% of the island's diameter. If we take the 3757.82 m figure for the length of the entire mountainous region, the entire island would be 34.11 km in diameter.

In reality, the extent of the mountainous region is probably significantly larger than what is shown in the second image (seeing as some of the mountain's edges are cut off, and there potentially being more mountains than those shown in the image), meaning that the diameter of the island is likely greater as well.
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The TLDR; for their calc.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
You can find a calc by Endvez from SpaceBattles here.


The TLDR; for their calc.
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No that’s not what I’m talking about. Unless I missed it, I’m not seeing any 5-B Getsuga Juujishou calc (I don’t even think you can get that without just poor calc behavior). So I think you misunderstood what I typed IMade.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No that’s not what I’m talking about. Unless I missed it, I’m not seeing any 5-B Getsuga Juujishou calc (I don’t even think you can get that without just poor calc behavior). So I think you misunderstood what I typed IMade.
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Nah, it's just a size calc so they can do a follow up Getsuga calc, which obviously won't yield 5-B anyways
 
New Tite Kubo Q&A;

Isshin vs White

Q: When Isshin fought White in the real world, was he in a state where his power was restricted by the limiting spirit seal?

K: Yes, that's right.

Damn. This is confusing.
 
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